Are you sure, Harry?

No my comment had absolutely nothing to do with what the parents are coping with so stop trying to make out it did.

I think trisher it's a (sort-of) reflected glory. And if you work in a difficult job or you have been campaigning for something close to your heart then it's a (sort-of) statement that you are worth something and not just slogging on day by day.

Years ago, when I worked for a small charity, some of my team were invited to a function with a member of the RF. There were loads of local "dignitaries" there and whoever it was said something positive and upbeat to one of my close colleagues about the work we did. They were so pleased that their hard work had been recognised they were buzzing for ages.

Of course it was the same if we had a thank you from someone we'd actually helped (!) but the prestige attached to the RF visit was different. Definitely not better - no, certainly not - but it meant the charity (and that individual) had been noticed.

You described them as "sycophantic" Shelmiss Do you know what the word means? Do you really think it was 'advantage' they were seeking and not just a friendly understanding face?
NotSpaghetti If people get a buzz from that sort of attention that's fine. I just don't understand why people get so involved with them and hate one while they love another. Do you think a celeb like say Ant and Dec would be viewed the same?

trisher - you say you don't dislike the Royal Family but describe them as 'dysfunctional and delusional'. Those are pretty strong words but actually quite meaningless. Not words I would use to describe anyone unless I really didn't like them. If people are getting something out of what H&M are doing then what about all the people who have been uplifted by what the RF have been doing for the last 100 years? You are praising something very insignificant but ignoring something much more substantial.

It's just to start an argument, Chestnut. She does it every time.

Yes I do know what sycophantic means trisher. Bye ?

Chestnut and Sparklefizz yes, she does it just to start an argument. Every time the royals are mentioned. She also says she doesn’t dislike the royals but a fair number of threads have shown that to be untrue, in my opinion. You’re right Chestnut, the words ‘don’t like’ may not be used but the meaning is crystal clear.

Dysfunctional- evidence of family break ups where the children suffered and have spoken of this. Accounts of suicide attempts Failing to properly develop relationships- parental difficulties.
Delusional- Andrew doesn't think he should answer to the law. Thinking a wedding will cheer up people at the end of pandemic. Imagining that they somehow are special and have a special relationship with the public or that they live lives like the rest of UK
Both apply to members of the RF.
Chestnut and Sparklefizz I have never denied that some people like the RF and the role they play. I don't. Equally I do not understand why anyone would hate a young couple like H&M. When I post alternative views you may regard it as starting an argument I simply think questioning the attitude taken by these people is valid. You may not. If you can't understand that it is possible to dislike the RF as a body and be indifferent to individual members that's your problem.
And I don't understand why anyone would deny the very real evidence that the people Harry spoke to were pleased to see him.

A family where a family member attempts suicide or commits
suicide is a dysfunctional family ?

trisher your knowledge of mental illness in nil, you spend too long at the shrine of Corbyn and are not in the real world.

No !!! I said ACCOUNTS of suicide ATTEMPTS

A person who attempts suicide is ill, not dysfunctional. Why do accounts of attempted suicide make a family dysfunctional? Not sure I understand that.

Every family, royal or not, has difficulties at times. And many have a ‘black sheep.’ I think Catherine’s was an uncle, who was a bit shady, but nonetheless invited to their wedding.

trisher Not sure what wedding you refer to. If it's Beatrice's, they have postponed it, feeling it's inappropriate at the moment.

I am interested to know how you know what the RF "imagine".

I think, trisher, you have also not understood something vital. It's possible to dislike someone's actions without disliking the person. People don't "hate" Harry or Meghan, as you seem to think ..... at least not on here ..... but they don't like the way they behave. There's a world of difference.

If the account details how the family handled it and they did so badly then the family is disfunctional. The prime purpose of the family being to offer support for its members. Really 'I am tired of the eternal nit-picking from people who make unsubstantiated and condemnatory posts about 2 people they know nothing about.

And who aren't prepared to acknowledge that contact with one of them might make some people feel better.

If the royals are a dysfunctional family Harry has jumped from the frying pan into the fire .

Who decides who has or comes from a dysfunctional family?
I suspect most of us are, at least some of the time.
Perhaps there is a scale of Dysfunctionality.

Ooh yes - I like the sound of a scale of "dysfunctionality" would it be 1 - 10 ? If so, what is 1 and what is 10 ie loads of awful stuff = 10? and not so awful stuff being 1? Any ideas?

I’m probably off the scale ??

I award me 10+ if I take trisher’s view of dysfunctional

The vitriol aimed at Harry and Meghan is astonishing
Remember when you were young and thought that you could conquer the world?
I just wish them a happy life with their little son
Imagine if someone was discussing your own son and daughter like this
It's kind of nasty
Oh and by the way, I'm not a royalist, just don't like to see bullying and that's what is going on here

When I was 38 I didn’t think I could conquer the world

Did you not Annie?
I stand by my comment that it's nasty and unnecessary

Certainly not , I assume you did Dollymc

Annie, at 38, I felt young and strong, yes
However, this isn't about me or you, or personal feelings, it's about bullying people.
I just don't like it

But it is about me , you accuse me of bullying , not true and I
don’t like it.