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The Sunday Times article. Can anyone defend Johnson after reading this?

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MaizieD Sun 19-Apr-20 09:41:30

Free to read and I hope that everyone takes advantage of it

archive.is/20200418182037/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/coronavirus-38-days-when-britain-sleepwalked-into-disaster-hq3b9tlgh

I have no words...

vegansrock Sun 19-Apr-20 13:25:13

Let’s face it, Tory voters on here probably voted for Farage as well, supported May, and now have transferred their adoration onto Johnson. As such they choose to
believe he is doing a marvellous job, he is second only to the almighty, any word against him is akin to treason, any criticism is just from jealousy, , and threads like this should be instantly deleted.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 19-Apr-20 13:24:56

By the second week in February Johnson and government were absolutely aware of the gravity facing the U.K. and yet we chose to send 122000 sets of PPE to China!

Astounding that Johnson didn’t think of prioritising the issue until March

Dinahmo Sun 19-Apr-20 13:22:34

Firecracker It doesn't grate, it doesn't make us angry that BJ is so popular. Speaking for myself, I'm gobsmacked that he is.
I've never understood how these Eton and Oxbridge educated men are so popular with the blue collar workers who surely can see that the right wing do not care about them.

Firecracker123 Sun 19-Apr-20 13:20:55

I see the usual sarcastic left leaning posters are out in force now a joint effort it seems to try and make fun of other GN posters who you don't agree with how childish and pathetic. Some posters must have sad lives.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 19-Apr-20 13:10:53

So the delivery from Turkey of life saving PPE isn’t going to arrive today after all.

Why am I not surprised?

The country was ready to hold off criticism to give the government space and time to get its act together but the government simply isn’t up to it.

I’m glad the gloves are beginning to come off

GillT57 Sun 19-Apr-20 13:07:58

I bet Firecracker is sitting at home knitting matinee jackets for the forthcoming Johnson infant, after all, it is far better than facing the truth, even if it does involve inferring that other posters, with family in the front line, are exaggerating or even telling lies just to discredit the most popular Tory leader ever grin

trisher Sun 19-Apr-20 13:02:41

Firecracker123 what sort of a world are you living in? The PM was cared for and possibly owes his life to a nurse from Portugal and all you can go on about is Brexit.
As for the use of bin liners there was a photo on the news a week or so ago showing nurses wearing bin liners with holes cut for their head and arms because no other PPE was available, so I see no reason to doubt the head covering.
As for Boris and popularity, he reminds me of "Where's Wally?" I believe he's popular as well and like Boris is hard to find.

GrannyLaine Sun 19-Apr-20 12:54:32

EllanVannin I don't understand your post.
A group of corona viruses include the common cold.
But this one is a new strain, Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome related corona virus 2 now referred to as "Novel Covid19" It is known to be "slippery" in as much as it can change its characteristics, which makes it far more dangerous and there is no general acquired immunity to it as yet. It will make finding a vaccine enormously difficult.

Firecracker123 Sun 19-Apr-20 12:52:57

It must really grate on the left that Boris is more popular than ever after his spell in hospital, the most popular Tory PM ever.

Its just Labour and the left trying to bring down Boris and his cabinet and ultimately delay / stop Brexit.

As for one poster thinking he should be prosecuted for manslaughter how ridiculous and if as one poster said her daughter had to wear a 10p plastic bag on her head well if they were true it would have been front page on all the lefty papers.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 19-Apr-20 12:37:32

How do you know he wasn’t calender?

What nonsense look at the dates!

Yogadatti Sun 19-Apr-20 12:34:35

I don’t think it matters on political slant....I always vote conservative, but am appalled by the governments bad handling of this......

Calendargirl Sun 19-Apr-20 12:33:02

How do you know he’s fit and well WWM2?

Whitewavemark2 Sun 19-Apr-20 12:28:58

A fit and well Prime Minister MISSED 5 COBRA MEETINGS!

Think about it. What on Earth would a prime minister be doing that was more important than the countries security.

It is a fundamental duty.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 19-Apr-20 12:26:11

TBH

I doubt that there is a single Tory on this forum who could say that they have ever read a more damning account of government failure.

Stella14 Sun 19-Apr-20 12:15:13

I agree MaggieMay, but even Jeremy Hunt would have been a far better Prime Minister. He has disagreed with Johnson and Handcock from the beginning on their handling of Covid19. He has talked sense repeatedly on this from the beginning and we all know how rare (and career damaging) it is for a Minister to disagree with the Government.

Dinahmo Sun 19-Apr-20 12:12:21

Stella14 Good luck with that. They won't be listening.

Lucca Sun 19-Apr-20 12:11:39

Er.....yes but why LOL?

MaggieMay69 Sun 19-Apr-20 12:11:14

If watching Nurses like my daughter wearing a carrier bag worth 10p on her head is ok with you, then you have problems. The Tories had chance after chance to put things into place, we're a bloody Island for goodness sake, we could have shut it all down and saved thousands of families from heartache!! If you think differently, thats fine, but I have seen people die, I have watched two of my friends being taken from their homes in body bags, and my daughter sobbing her heart out because my grandchildren think she will die without the proper equipment.
The Tories have so much blood on their hands.

Dinahmo Sun 19-Apr-20 12:11:12

It's interesting how the Tories on here are sticking up for the government and the rest aren't. Luckily it's not quite as bad as America where the right are now waving guns and demonstrating about the continued lock down in some states - just because Trump has said lock downs are no longer necessary.

Stella14 Sun 19-Apr-20 12:09:57

Lucca - we must talk sense to Tories LOL!

MaggieMay69 Sun 19-Apr-20 12:07:14

Its what most people knew all along. He was never fit to be the PM. They missed a huge chance for things to be different with Corbyn. I don't care what people say, Johnson and Co were always in it for the money, I would much rather have a man who won awards for peace in control of things.

Lucca Sun 19-Apr-20 12:05:32

Stella. I agree but I think this is a staunchly Tory forum.....
Dare to criticise at your peril!

Dinahmo Sun 19-Apr-20 12:04:30

Politicians chose their advisors who reflect their own opinions. i watched Peston interview MH who said there was no reason to wear masks - as per the experts.

Peston later interviewed a specialist (sorry, I don't recall his name) who explained why wearing masks was essential. Apparently even when we talk we release moisture which breaks up into smaller drops within a short distance of the body, thereby spreading. So wearing of masks prevents the spread of moisture and so protects other people, even though they do not protect ourselves. That makes sense to me.

Stella14 Sun 19-Apr-20 12:02:22

EllanVannin are you serious with your comment that there is nothing new about this virus, it was called Corona in the ‘60?

Coronavirus is a group of viruses. It includes the common cold and all flu viruses. Covid19 is a completely new virus. It is also another Coronavirus!

Stella14 Sun 19-Apr-20 11:53:00

The Times is a staunchly Tory paper. It’s clear on this thread that Tory voters and ‘fans’ of Boris Johnson are taking a ‘see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil approach’. He is not the Messiah, he is just a very naughty boy and this time thousands of people will die as a result!