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Whitewavemark2 Mon 25-May-20 17:31:13

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GNHQ edit: Following on from previous thread linked to here: Will he resign?

Elegran Wed 27-May-20 10:42:23

Callistemon Could it just possibly be that (I am fantasising here but . . ) he is now coming out of seclusion and speaking directly to the nation as a preliminary to starting up a publicly political career. He may think that appeals to those who would rather have "used their own judgment" and "Followed their instincts" and would back him in any contest for a successor to Boris Johnson as Prime Minister?

If the US can have a POTUS with no previous direct experience as part of a government, then he may think "Why not the UK?" He is confident enough of his own infallibility to want the job, and the taste of power that he has been experiencing has doubtless been exhilarating.

Callistemon Wed 27-May-20 10:55:07

I'm not sure, Elegran. I think he is a manipulator and possibly he prefers to be the puppet master rather than the puppet.
He seems to wield the real power, whereas the power of a democratically elected MP or even PM is limited.

What is happening at the moment in other areas - surely not everything else in government is entirely on hold?

Perhaps I'm becoming far too cynical!

merlotgran Wed 27-May-20 10:57:48

I believe the child tested negative so that casts doubt on whether or not DC and his wife had it.

I really do think the whole thing is a fairy story to cover up the fact they snuck off on a jolly knowing Boris was going downhill fast so unlikely to be contacting him.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-May-20 11:29:25

callistemon

Well the Agricultural Bill went through. You know the one that allows imported meat that has been raised in unhygienic conditions and full of hormones, anti biopics etc.
That means our own farmers will find it difficult to compete if they keep to our high welfare standards.

I think they must be quite pleased that that went through whilst everyone is looking elsewhere.

Our covid mortality figures remain one of the highest in the world, and after loosing control recently there is very likely to be an up tick of cases meaning more deaths.

The promised test and trace has not got off the ground as promised in time for the children’s return to school, putting yet more lives at risk.

There has been a report that states that acting too slowly at the beginning if the pandemic on Cummings instructions, has Caused untold thousand more deaths than would have been the case if the government had followed the scientific advise and ignored Cummings crackpot theory of herd immunity etc.

Lots more of course

Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-May-20 11:39:34

Blimey it gets worse!

Johnson has requested that he used Buckingham Palace garden, tennis court etc for his own private exercise.

“The Queen has given Boris Johnson approval to exercise in the grounds of Buckingham Palace as he continues to recover from Covid-19”
What about others recovering from Covid-19? There must lots of rooms for self-isolation. Are the invitations in the post?

Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-May-20 11:45:48

I wonder if Cummings is joining him as he also recovers from the mysterious illness he never had.

lemongrove Wed 27-May-20 11:51:29

Since Johnson is the PM and still in recovery mode, why shouldn’t the Queen allow him to use the tennis court....it’s in London and near No 10.I doubt that she and Philip use it much these days.?

lemongrove Wed 27-May-20 11:54:33

Quite a few conspiracy stories now, and assertions ( put as fact) that neither Cummings or his wife were ever ill.
Just as on GN and other social media recently, a few posters asserted that Boris was never ill either.hmm

Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-May-20 11:55:02

Trending

The Dim and Dom show.

We are a world embarrassment!!

GrannyGravy13 Wed 27-May-20 11:55:20

Can't see anything wrong with the PM using Buckingham Palace tennis courts in his endeavour to regain his fitness post Covid.

The Royal,Family are not in residence.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-May-20 11:56:55

I’ll give you a clue.

“We are not part of the elite}

Sold to the working class vote in the north.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 27-May-20 11:58:04

Stop stressing and looking for stories and conspiracies folks, it's a lovely day for sitting in your garden/any outside space, reading a book and relaxing.

So much better for your mental health ?

GrannyGravy13 Wed 27-May-20 11:58:58

And there you have it ............jealousy of wealth and privilege.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-May-20 11:59:21

I’m doing both but without the stress??

Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-May-20 12:03:44

Not me gg13 nothing to do with jealousy. I much prefer the countryside. Buckingham palace gardens have always seemed to be unfortunately right in the middle of a whole lot of polluted air.

But it will be something else over this whole sorry saga that the new working class Tory voter will remember.

Labour is sitting back and watching this, wondering just how much more the Tories can do to themselves!

Galaxy Wed 27-May-20 12:04:39

Yes for goodness sake dont think about things. Just sit in your garden

MayBee70 Wed 27-May-20 12:21:29

People like Cummings rely on people not thinking about things....

trisher Wed 27-May-20 12:27:59

I do think this "you are just jealous" accusation that seems to be hurled at anyone who questions privilege very strange. Is it jealousy just to think that some degree of equality should be the norm? That the people who should be given permission to exercise in any of the private green spaces in London should really be those who live in cramped and crowded conditions. Even the Victorians recognised the value of giving workers places to excersise. Is all action and opinion about equality just based on jealousy? I think those who make the accusation must have very skewed thinking and strange minds.
As for Dom he's probably rejoicing. Break the lockdown rules, get it publicised knowing people will be outraged and do the same. Virus spread, herd immunity in progress, poor and old wiped out, job done!

lemongrove Wed 27-May-20 12:31:04

GG13 grin....but what you have to remember is that some people really enjoy thinking up conspiracy stories ( and spreading them) it’s as good for them as a day out.
Tbh I think everybody would be better to cut a lot ( maybe all) social media out of their lives.

lemongrove Wed 27-May-20 12:31:32

Into the garden now, for lunch and reading my book.?

MaizieD Wed 27-May-20 12:41:06

Part of an article a friend passed to me:

Cummings made absolutely clear his conditions for working in government were smashing civil service and rebuilding in his image and creating British ‘ARPA’ – an AI-driven research facility. That’s exactly what he’s doing right now in Cabinet Office with Gove his long-time co-conspirator. Sure, the hypocrisy and entitlement of Cummings is breathtaking but there’s a far darker story that it obscures and it’s why the focus must be on Johnson now and his decision to throw weight of his office – statement from No 10 – behind him.”

The real story that Cadwalladr and others, like TruePublica, have been saying all along is this. The Conservative party is not a party for ‘broad-church’ centre-right politicians with traditional Conservative values. That has gone. This party wants to extract Britain from the centre-left European Union of regulation and pivot Britain towards a deregulated America. Next year, Britain will have suffered a hard-Brexit or something like it and some sort of trade-deal’ with America will have been ‘agreed’.

truepublica.org.uk/united-kingdom/dominic-cummings-a-cover-story-obscuring-something-far-darker/

Now I don't remember Dominc Cummings standing fro Parliament on a platform of completely reorganising the civil service to his liking and aligning the USA with the USA. Or subverting the process for awarding government contracts by competitive tender in order for a few favoured companies to be just 'given' them. If he had, then people could have decided whether or not this was what they wanted for the UK and voted accordingly.

No, he is an unelected bureaucrat with extraordinary power over our government who wants to completely reshape the UK to his own agenda. Now, I recall that lots of people voted to leave the EU because they didn't want to be ruled by unelected bureaucrats, Very passionate about it, they were. So why aren't they bothered about Cummings' agenda which they haven't even been asked about?

Granny23 Wed 27-May-20 12:59:16

I would love to be sitting in the garden relaxing but I am stuck indoors waiting for a call back from my solicitor, who is also stuck indoors waiting for news of her seriously ill in hospital father. I have been trying since March to sell DH's ISAs to pay his Care Home Fees, endless calls to Stockbrokers (who are working from home. One call cost me £13.86 because unbeknown to me I was phoning a mobile.) They are still refusing to accept my POA documents because their IT system only recognises the English version and my POA is Scottish and delays with sending documents as must be by registered post and I'm locked down. As DH is in a Care Home (only 1/4 mile from my house) I have not seen or spoken to him since March, except by Skype, which is hopeless and upsetting as he is pretty deaf and now has no idea who I am - certainly not his wife who is apparently much younger and prettier than me. He does not look like himself either as the carers have (for hygiene??) shaved off the beard which he first grew on our honeymoon 54 years ago. I do have daily calls with my DDs and DGC which are some comfort. I exhaust myself every day working in our my huge garden, watering daily by watering can because the outside tap is broken and sawing wood for the fire so that I sleep at nights, trying not to dream about our annual, whole family, holiday, in a rented cottage on the Isle of Barra. the highlight of the year but not this year of course, so nothing to look forward to. My Cousin has just died, funeral in Inverness on Monday, I will be remembering her from here, home alone at 12 noon.

I could go on but please do not insult me and the thousands who are in a worst pickle than I am, by suggesting that a seat in the sun will solve everything.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 27-May-20 13:10:23

Granny23 flowers for your many troubles. My step-father was in a home and it was heartbreaking when he stopped being able to recognise us.

Callistemon Wed 27-May-20 14:13:23

Granny23 flowers
Try not to exhaust yourself, easy to say, but can you solve the two practical difficulties, ie get someone in to mend the tap and saw a huge pile of wood for you?
Sometimes it's the smaller things that put us at the end of our tethers.

It is devastating for those unable to see loved ones and distressing being unable to attend a funeral of a relative.

My Sis-IL is isolating at home alone, with rapid onset dementia. Family were at the stage of thinking of arranging a care home for her but that is impossible now. We worry that something will happen, she may wander off, because sometimes she is absolutely on the ball and then is bewildered by what is happening.

MayBee70 Wed 27-May-20 14:16:10

Just read that Emily Wakefields father called his horse Barack because he is 'half black and half white'. They really are an adorable family, aren't they.