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Whitewavemark2 Mon 25-May-20 17:31:13

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GNHQ edit: Following on from previous thread linked to here: Will he resign?

growstuff Wed 27-May-20 03:27:59

The only mystery is why Johnson sticks with him.

The whole thing is a load of cobblers. Cummings is a strategist. If he wanted to cover up or even hide what he'd done in the first place, he'd have done a better job than this.

My personal feeling is because they want this to carry on until it's too late to ask the EU for a Brexit extension.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if they both go shortly after that and leave others to pick up the pieces and wash their hands (singing Happy Birthday) of the whole thing.

growstuff Wed 27-May-20 03:32:49

What is so shocking is that they've played with people's lives to win their game.

growstuff Wed 27-May-20 03:33:48

And taken so many people's good will for granted.

Curlywhirly Wed 27-May-20 06:47:01

And think we are all thick. How could any reasonably intelligent person believe Cummings's story? They went on holiday.

MaizieD Wed 27-May-20 08:19:49

Cummings knows where the bodies are buried, growstuff. I think it's as simple as that.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-May-20 08:20:08

Listening to R4 a government minister is re-writing the law as he speaks.

Daisymae Wed 27-May-20 08:21:46

Cummings had waited his whole life to be at the heart of government. I don't think that he is going anywhere.

MaizieD Wed 27-May-20 08:40:43

It would be fun to have a constitutional crisis in the middle of all this, wouldn't it?

If there were enough rebel tory MPs to support a vote of no confidence.. hmm

Grannynannywanny Wed 27-May-20 08:46:30

BJ is to be questioned by senior MPs today. The first time he has appeared before the Commons Liaison Committee since taking office.

35 Tory MPs have called for Cummings to resign. He’s way too arrogant to admit he is in the wrong. But as the pressure continues to mount against BJ from his own side he may be forced to sack him in an attempt to save his own neck

MissAdventure Wed 27-May-20 08:49:36

I wonder what will be more important to boris?
Saving any scrap of credibility he can scrape up, or defending the indefensible?

Sparkling Wed 27-May-20 08:50:59

I hope Cummings does go now.
Why are reporters allowed to crowd outside someone's house in a pandemic? Would anyone feel safe? The people I dude wouldn't, reporters certainly are not.

Sparkling Wed 27-May-20 08:51:40

Oops dude is inside.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 27-May-20 08:58:11

30th June is the deadline to apply for an extension to Brexit negotiations. If DC does go before then no doubt he will be working freelance from home

Then just watch the MSM go after Frost the governments negotiator

quizqueen Wed 27-May-20 09:00:24

Every senior member of the Royal family fled to their holiday homes, which was against lockdown rules. One of them had the virus. Where is your vitriol for them? Yes, DC did a stupid thing for someone in the public eye but you won't stop Brexit by getting rid of him, no matter how hard you try.

MissAdventure Wed 27-May-20 09:02:40

The royals didn't make the rules.

Huge difference.

Elegran Wed 27-May-20 09:35:17

So many people bring Brexit into this. I had almost forgotten that we have left the EU in all but the final negotiated details in the face of this more immediate threat.

The anger he has unleashed about his actions has no connection with Brexit. Can they not see the arrogance of the man, making rules for the little people to follow which he doesn't follow himself?

And his stuopidity and lack of foresight - By acting as though he can ignore what binds everyone else, he has given permission for everyone in the country who has CoVid 19 symptoms to pile into a car with their child and spend four hours closed in with them to spread it to grandma (ignoring family living locally and a local community action group who would have helped ).

OF COURSE the child then developed the virus and as a result had to be hospitalised - what did he expect? And this man is reponsible for advising out Prime Minister on his decisions? Do either of them really have a clue?

Has he never read any history? When the plague struck in 1348, those who could flee the infected cities did so - taking the plague with them and ensuring that it killed 30% of the population. Most of the modern inhabitants of the country took to heart the scientific, medical and governmental advice to STAY HOME and deal with it from there - but not him! Why is he still in place as the power behind 10 Downing Street?

Firecracker123 Wed 27-May-20 09:35:37

08:46Grannynannywanny

BJ is to be questioned by senior MPs today. The first time he has appeared before the Commons Liaison Committee since taking office.

35 Tory MPs have called for Cummings to resign.

So on that reckoning he's got 330 odd who are on his side.

lemongrove Wed 27-May-20 09:43:21

Actually Elegran Cummings /wife/child didn’t ‘spread it to granny’ as you say, they lived in a separate house.
Secondly, if one of them had the virus then almost certainly the child would get it ( not just being in the same car!) you can’t parent a four year old from six feet away.
Whatever the perceived right and wrongs of this matter, the claims surrounding them are getting more and more OTT.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-May-20 09:44:20

Charlie Falconer
@LordCFalconer
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Jenrick says he takes his lead from the PM on whether Cummings broke the law. PM as judge on whether his chief adviser broke the law isn’t the way the rule of law works. It’s the most flagrant subversion of the law.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-May-20 09:48:34

Cummings nor his wife haven’t been ill. They went on a jolly to Durham and apparently Northumberland.

There is simply no other explanation. If you analyse everything Cummings and his wife have said, there are so many holes in it that it is obvious that they have put together a tissue of lies. The trouble they have found is that they aren’t so clever as they thought they were, There can’t be any other explanation.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-May-20 10:00:46

Oh that is a double negative?

nightowl Wed 27-May-20 10:01:25

If they were ill, they broke the law.

If they weren’t ill, they still broke the law. There’s really no way out of it I’m afraid, so they might as well stop trying to explain, making themselves look more foolish with every additional embellishment and contradiction.

trisher Wed 27-May-20 10:21:09

Cummings is a strategist but one of the things he has relied on has been his anonymity. Few knew who was. He has been pictured sometimes going in and out No 10 but until then he was seldom seen. He no doubt thought he could pop up North and no-one would know. He forgot that there are people around there who have known him since childhood and he would be spotted.

Callistemon Wed 27-May-20 10:25:08

GGUmpteenth are you damning him for that

I don't need to. He and his wife have done that themselves quite successfully.

What is going on that this story, which is now dominating the headlines, has been leaked at this moment?
Could it be another part of his strategy?

He has become the story, instead of being part of the solution to this crisis.
He thinks he is so firmly entrenched that nothing will shift him. I just hope that there are enough Tory MPs with integrity to do that.

Kandinsky Wed 27-May-20 10:39:31

Not sure what to make of it all, but I must say, I am finding DC very attractive < lowers tone > grin