Will he resign 2

They really are a bunch of arrogant arses.

Sometimes one would wish that Her Majesty could step in!!

Just listening to a senior fellow of institute of government.

She says that Johnson has sole responsibility for everything that Cummings does. Cummings has zero inherent authority, and so it is up to the media to hold Johnson entirely responsible for the mayhem Cummings is causing.

Woah!

A Downing Street source (Cummings) has described the resigning Scottish Minister as Mr Nobody!!

Blimey

Blimey indeed Whitewavemark2 doesn't say much for their judgement when appointing ministers does it? That's some admission of a misjudgement appointing a Mr Nobody to such an important post!

It was 60 mile round trip!

Oh, the one to see if his sight had been damaged, you mean?

Apologies grandpa1943 for wishful thinking re. Parliament being in session. Time has no
meaning any more!

Grannyactivist, thank you for that. Excellent work.

Headache is an early symptom of the virus; in fact many people don't develop a cough until several days later. It also then probably results in people taking paracetamol which lowers the temperature which would probably fight the virus.This is why public information regarding symptoms results in many people wandering around whilst being infectious. Look how long it took for people to be told that loss of taste and smell was a symptom. What surprises me is that I seem to be more clued up on the virus, how it is spread and what the symptoms are than the people advising us/running the country.

Cummings is a clever and charming psychopath. He has those he has chosen under his thrall. We’re stuffed! (And I really liked Mr Gove )

Oh, I fail to see much in the way of charm!!!

3 points I would like to make. Twitter is not the real world. Both the Police and the chief prosecutor do not think Dominic Cummings has broken the law. Starmer needs to look at labour MPs before casting stones, he is a hypocrite.
I support Cummings and Boris.

3 points I would like to make.
1 Cummings is a liar.
2 Cummings has lied.
3 I do not support him at all.

They usually go in the end but it is a wonderful example of defending the indefensible. What fools the rest of us look but even we fools still have a vote.

Tell you what, Elliegran, twitter might not be the real world (so tell me about the millions of aliens who use it, then?) but lawyers on twitter are pretty unanimous in their view that Cummings broke the law.

I don't know where you get the idea that the police don't agree from. He is currently being investigated by Durham police. They will then pass their findings to the CPS who will make the decision whether or not to prosecute.

Who is this 'chief prosecutor' of whom you speak?

Isn't the Attorney General also under fire for supporting Cummings as well. Pity Johnson got rid of mot of the Conservative MP's that did have integrity. Can't help but think Teresa May is enjoying this enormously.

Elliegran (not Elegran) seems to be another of these right wing posters who have mysteriously popped up recently on GN. Pure coincidence?

Oh another bot? Or paid influencer?

Police have said that had he been stopped by police on the journey up to Durham he would definitely have been turned back, as were many people who attempted much shorter journeys. A sensible approach would have been to have his two nieces on standby to come to London should both parents become incapacitated by coronavirus. We were told not to drive anywhere except for a very limited number of reasons, because the risk of having an accident or breakdown that would put others at danger. Certainly nobody who believed they had the virus should have been leaving their home at all.

Well, it seems that a fair few people would have done exactly the same.
Disappointing, to say the least.

Whitehaven and varian. I have been on Gransnet. For a long time but do not usually post but this issue is so immotive I have been moved to post. You obviously find it difficult to accept that anyone has a different view to yourselves. So much for our tolerant society in the UK. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

Well done for coming forward elliegran after lurking for goodness knows how long.

I still disagree with you though.

Absolutely astounding that Hancock is considering to change the law regarding fines for driving during lockdown, and the fines that were fished out.

All for an advisor..

Anyone would think he was god

Exactly janipat. The government has been removing outdated versions of the rules over the last few days, but it's possible to retrieve them. I'm pretty sure it was permissible to leave home to provide childcare in an emergency, so the nieces or aunt could have travelled to London and picked up the child. However, in no circumstances should either parent have left the family home, if they thought they had been infected, and certainly not travelled as far as they did.

Apparently, Mrs C even took the child to a hospital, which was also forbidden. The advice was (and still is) to ring 111. There was the very real risk that she could have spread infection to patients and staff in the hospital.

Cummings has claimed that the child was "vulnerable" and needed "safeguarding". This is a cynical manipulation of an addition to valid reasons for leaving home (which was, I believe, added after all this anyway) to protect children suffering from real abuse.

Can anyone point me in the way of the conversation please?

david allen green
@davidallengreen
Fwiw, and this is an entirely personal opinion as a long-term Johnson watcher - to understand Cummings' hold over Johnson, you have to listen to the infamous conversation between Johnson and Darius Guppy