George Floyd Protests in Hyde Park

Have you not been to Hull, whitewave?

Coulson I don't know who that might have been.

I have heard of Colston, though. I thought everyone had - had you never heard of him before, whitewave?

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Lesson 1

david allen green
@davidallengreen
Until relatively modern times, the law of slavery was part of the law of property, and not of the law of human rights

Those who complain of damage to property would do well to remember this

I agree that the statue should have been removed, but its removal should have been done in accordance with the law and not mob mentality.

And those who wilfully destroy other people's property would do well to remember that they are breaking the law.

MissAdventure

Instead of clapping the nhs, people could step outside to make their feelings known about this issue.

Instead of rainbows in windows, we could put up a sign which shows solidarity.

I think that is a very good idea, MissAdventure

Surely we want positive things to come from this dreadful, negative action, not more destruction and negativity?

Thangham Debbonnaire has been asking for Colston's statue to be removed for some time now.
In fact, this debate has been going on for years.

Should we hide history or learn from it?
Should every school, every building in Bristol built with Colston's money be torn down and history eradicated?

Davidhs

The black community really needs to look hard at itself, in Washington DC nearly 90% of black males are imprisoned at some time in their lives, over 70% of black children are born to unmarried mothers. Children grow up with mothers that have a negative attitude to men and the only male role models are the gang leaders.

How can a community thrive when the majority of young males have such negative prospects, having been been rejected or ignored by their fathers, brought up in extreme poverty with no prospect of skilled employment.

The ignorance here is astounding

Reframe your question with how can black men be expected to do better when they are far more likely to be arrested than a white man doing the exact same thing. When they are far more likely to be killed than a white man doing the exact same thing.

We get it, You refuse to look outside of yourself and your own experience.

Sit down and listen to people who don’t look like you.

Missfoodlove

Summerlove “ Maybe watch your wording going forward”
Is this a warning?

The point I am making that nobody seems to take on board is that when the young white girls were abused and raped nobody caused a fuss, nobody protested, it was all brushed under the carpet.
Can you imagine the outcry if it had been the other way around?

I believe racism works both ways.

The Asian paedophile gangs raped and abused thousands of young girls and the Police took a decade to act because they feared being branded as racist.

Absolutely not a “warning“, just a friendly reminder that if you don’t want to be viewed as racist don’t say racist things.

Isn’t it great to have the quote facility.....I am been asking for one for years.?

lemongrove

Isn’t it great to have the quote facility.....I am been asking for one for years.?

Yes, it is although posts could get longer and longer!

True, Callistemon but the upside is that when we post something, it’s obvious what we are replying to, so worth it in the end.

Summerlove.

What was my racist comment?

Whitewave the difficulties with the black community has been escalating for decades, perhaps you could suggest the way forward because nobody wants the situation as it is, there is no chance of integration.

Summerlove I can’t see any racist things written by MissFoodLove anywhere on here.You are confused or simply wrong.

I’ll not convince you ladies, and that’s ok.

But please look into some of the wonderful information shared over the last few days in the media on why certain words/phrases are problematic.

Constantly bringing up “if things were the other way around” and “all lives matter” are two of them.

Please note, I want to be very clear, I am not saying you are racist, just that certain phrases or expressions are. That’s all.

Regardless of who or what the statue represented it is an act of criminal damage the culprits should be found and charged accordingly.

Davidhs, the black community needs to look hard at itself???...so it's all the fault of the black community...the black community enslaved themselves? the black community put structures in place to deprive themselves of fair opportunity? the black community established a justice system that treats it unfairly? Everyone needs to take a hard look at themselves

gg13 couldn’t agree less. In fact I would remove all those statues which represent oppression.

Rhodes and Clive spring to mind.

WWMK2 criminal damage is criminal damage end of.

Or are you know supporting anarchy and criminal acts?

History cannot be re-written, if you erase the past what is to stop the same mistakes being made again?

For everyone who thinks the desecration of Colston's statue is ok, there's another person who thinks it an act of mindless vandalism..

They've already renamed Colston Hall?.

Slavery in the UK was abolished in 1807 (or thereabouts).

I'd like to think that, after 200 years, we can accept and acknowledge past events without dredging them up again to suit an agenda.

Exactly ^Oldgimner1*

GrannyGravy13 History does not depend on statues. The statue of Colston did not record or recognise his involvement in slavery. In fact until recently it was a hidden story which was rarely taught anywhere.
Callistemon I grew up in Hull and often visited the Wilberforce Museum the memory of the horrific items used to control and punish slaves has stayed with me all my life.

Well said oldgimmer1 and GG13

You cannot defend the criminals (as that is what they are) there is ample video footage.