Meghan's Speech

How was Meghan racially abused?

I've no idea maddyone because I didn't spend every minute of her time in the UK with her. Nor I think did you. If she felt racially abused she has the right to say so. She and other black women believe the British press were racist. You can read aout that here www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/01/10/british-tabloids-drove-meghan-away-theyll-never-learn/
You may beleive it wasn't racist, but just as a man should not insist a woman has not been sexually harassed when she says she has been, you should not insist there was no racism.

If you're looking for the truthmaddyone please dont think you'll find it on BBC or Sky news .The BBC wouldn't know the truth if they tripped over it and Sky is as right wing as it gets .
Find some unbiased media ..its not easy but there are some available .The new Director General of the BBC is a failed Tory candidate and chair of a tory association

There are many types of racism - it doesn't have to overt. I knew people who were adamant they were not racist yet still said and did things which showed their true feelings, like encouraging people to rub a black colleagues hair - surprised at how soft it was, when another black colleague started something they would take over because "you won't be able to do it"

We have no idea how the RF act in private - as I recall Philip isn't exactly careful about what he says, has he passed those views on to his family. I don't often agree with trisher but in this instance I do - no-one has any idea what sort of welcome she really received.

We have no idea how the RF act in private

True.

However, according to Harry on Radio 4. Meghan had a marvellous time with his family Christmas 2017

He went as far to say that the Royals were the 'family she'd never had'.

Which obviously caused some consternation amongst her relatives

In fact that was when her family all kicked off

These Meghan threads all end up exactly the same. The same people saying the same things.

I would bet my house that H&M aren't eagerly perusing tGN for any good news.

Social media and forums are just areas where anyone and everyone can vent their feelings

Not everyone has t he same opinion. Which is what people want. A forum where everyone is a nodding dog would be rather boring.

Harry talking to Radio 4

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05s3gnm

However, according to Harry on Radio 4. Meghan had a marvellous time with his family Christmas 2017

My colleague laughed and went along with the hair rubbing - later when we were alone I asked him how he really felt about it and said he was embarrassed and annoyed but felt he had to pretend it was OK. Perhaps Meghan did the same and Harry was saying what was expected of him.

Why is it ok for trisher to be accused of having a crush on Meghan ?

I’m sure GN posters aren’t embittered old crones really but thread after thread criticising Meghan, (no not just expressing disapproval of her behaviour ,)and criticising her for whatever she does Make them look a bit that way.....

Jabberwok

Meghan was not subjected to racism in the UK! She was made more than welcome both by the RF who bent over backwards to welcome her and make her part of the family. The public and media went overboard to welcome her, where does anyone think those cheering crowds came from? She was a 36 year old divorcee and a working actress, hardly a young innocent abroad! She must have been perfectly aware of what joining the RF would mean, and if she didn't she should have made it her business to find out and that no one would or could change their way of doing things particularly while the Queen was alive! Perhaps her husband should have made that clear to her!, You'll get luxury, privilege, servants bowing and scraping, in fact a life that the rest of us could only dream of, some at taxpayers expense!! BUT, and there is a but, in exchange for this charmed life, you also have royal duties and hierarchy within the family to cope with, some of which must be crucifyingly boring, and tedious. This is what Meghan couldn't or wouldn't cope with, nothing to do with racism.

Irrespective of what she could or couldn’t deal with with the royal family, she was at the end of a lot of racist comments. I’m always shocked how people refuse to admit that, Even when presented with proof.

Saying that people were racist towards her is not saying the whole country is racist, or that anyone on these threads is racist. It’s saying that she received a lot of racist backlash. I do not understand why there is a refusal to accept that.

Lucca you are sure posters who criticise Megan are not
nasty, embittered old crones, but they look that way ?

If it walks like a duck etc .

I thought you were above insults , my mistake

Do you have concrete evidence of these racist comments? Newspapers, magazines, speeches anything really? If you have do tell, because neither I or anyone I know, or anything I've read, have ever uttered one racist comment concerning her!
Horrible people on various forums or whatever often make vile comments about the RF, the D's of Cornwall and Cambridge in particular have come in for a lot of this. Even the Queen is called derogatory names by some. Its all part of the territory of being part of the RF, but mainstream media and the public at large were not racist toward MM, unless you can prove differently.

All these people who say they know she wasn’t subjected to racism.

How do you ‘know’? You cannot know. But you prefer to believe she’s lying? Of course you do.

It has been reported that, in the past, Meghan often ticked the Caucasian box when applying for acting and other jobs. Now, she's black so she can claim the British hated her and were racist.

Racism alert!

MaizieD so I’m presuming you didn’t agree with what she was actually saying? I think whether she is right or left if it’s the truth what does it matter. I think listening is the key, not labelling.

And your comment Annie about “a crush on Meghan” ??

“ it has been reported “
Absolute 100% fact then.

Merlotgran, we would not have heard her speech if she had not been able to take advantage of the platform she now has access to, so if the message she gave is in essence a message of positivity why can’t folks just accept it at face value even or especially if she was able to do so because of her ‘now position ’ ?

And trisher’s comment on posters being ‘nasty, embittered
old crones’ Lucca ?

My post 14.03. Annie

Yes I replied to that post Lucca

‘You are not but you look that way’ , not a yes or no was it ?

Jabberwok From the Washington Post article I gave the link to British racism is often coy and coded, but when it comes to Meghan there was no need to read between the lines. The hate was in the headlines, which referred to the Los Angeles neighborhood where she grew up as “gang-scarred” and her role editing a racially diverse edition of Vogue as “divisive.”
I love the description of British racism as "coy and coded" perhaps that is why some people don't see it.

I am so horrified at the emergence of racism in its many form. Some are just really nasty and overt, however, so may are not, just a feeling of 'them and us'. Many of my ex-colleagues and friends (British people of colour), are experiencing this, either themselves, or their children, for the first time. Seems somehow permission has been given for this type of hate.

Anyone.....anyone at all who will speak against it, will have my support. I am an ardent republican, and have never taken the slightest interest in marriages, affairs, births, etc of the RF. Anyone asks me I always say that I think of them as often and as much as they think of me!!!

However, in Trumps' USA if is brave to speak out against the rampant racism her supports. So this woman was invited to speak at her old school - not an unusual invite for someone who has been in a successful tv series. And, yes, she is a media 'star', so her speech was going to be of interest to a wider audience.

I do not really know oare how she was treated when in UK, she is part of the priviledged classes these days, too much money, too much fame, too little responsibilities. But, I am still grateful to her for speaking out,and do not understand why anyone could oppose what she said.

Jabberwok

Do you have concrete evidence of these racist comments? Newspapers, magazines, speeches anything really? If you have do tell, because neither I or anyone I know, or anything I've read, have ever uttered one racist comment concerning her!
Horrible people on various forums or whatever often make vile comments about the RF, the D's of Cornwall and Cambridge in particular have come in for a lot of this. Even the Queen is called derogatory names by some. Its all part of the territory of being part of the RF, but mainstream media and the public at large were not racist toward MM, unless you can prove differently.

I’m sure you’ll argue the point, but sure, here’s one.

www.google.ca/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3896180/amp/Prince-Harry-s-girlfriend-actress-Meghan-Markles.html

Luckgirl MEagain has form for ringing organisation and offering a private visit. She turned up a womens's refuge shortly after arriving back in Canada, then published photo's of the "private" visit. It's all about her P.R