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Pulling back from BLM

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tickingbird Wed 01-Jul-20 09:23:28

I’ve read today that some football commentators, including a black ex player, are distancing themselves from BLM due to the UK branch of BLM issuing a series of tweets criticising Israel and calling for the defunding of our police. Apparently a statement may be forthcoming from various Premier League captains and the FA.

I, personally, have always believed there were political agitators jumping on this movement so maybe that’s the case.

Galaxy Fri 10-Jul-20 10:37:45

Stonewall riots anniebach, it's often not sweetness and light, change rarely is.

EllanVannin Fri 10-Jul-20 11:22:02

EVERYONE'S lives matter, we don't need to be bombarded with bloomin' placards which discriminate one life in preference to another.

It would appear that nobody's noticed that we're ALL human beings regardless ? Why don't folk just get on with their lives and have something real to worry about other than the colour of someone ?

Chardy Fri 10-Jul-20 11:39:19

Footballers wear the poppies on the match closest to 11 November. The 2 photos are from 2017 and 2018.
I've been going to football since the 60s, had a season ticket for nearly 30 yrs, and personally I find footballers taking the knee very moving.
The Colin Kaerpernick thing in US was politicised, not least by Trump, but I know nothing really about the difference between UK sport and US sport. I've been to plenty of away grounds over the years, and rarely observed racism in fans, never between players on the field. (But then I'm white. I might say different if I wasn't) There's usually a real camaraderie.

Loislovesstewie Fri 10-Jul-20 12:03:50

I commented on another thread about a rapper , Ice Cube, who supported BLM in the USA and was making antisemitic comments. I was told not to cloud the issue by making comments about individuals. To me, the point is that movements are made up of individuals, some of these individuals are immensely powerful and influential, as is this rapper ( no, I hadn't heard of him but my kids have ). So, a movement that starts off with all good intents, ends up doing a huge amount of harm.I suspect that this comment will not be viewed favourably , so , there it goes as Kurt Vonnegut Jr might have said!

Anniebach Fri 10-Jul-20 12:22:07

Yes Galaxy the Stonewall Riots, in New York, I was speaking
of demonstrations for gay rights in this country, the U.K.

JaneNJ Fri 10-Jul-20 12:54:30

BLM was originally a creation of the Nation of Islam & the Black Panthers in 2013. The Nation of Islam’s leader is Louis Farrakhan, an avid antisemite who calls for the genocide of the Jewish people. He and his followers believe Black people were the original children of Israel and that white people usurped the land (Israel) from them. The BLM website had gross antisemitic statements until recently to remain “marketable”. Make no mistake, they haven’t changed their minds. A few years ago, the BLM female leaders did not want Jewish women to participate in the Women’s March in Washington DC. They refused to disavow LF. They used the shooting of George Floyd, a career criminal, who served 5 years in prison for breaking & entering and holding a pregnant woman at gunpoint to their advantage. While there are many sincere people who care about police brutality of people of color, they have had no idea about this radical, hateful group of whose slogans they publicize. Black lives matter but NOT this group!!!

Galaxy Fri 10-Jul-20 12:54:50

Gay rights demonstrations in this country were also continually told it was the wrong way of protesting. Lesbians invading the newsroom, Outrage was consistently seen as the wrong type of organisation because of the way it tackled the issue.

Chardy Fri 10-Jul-20 13:25:57

And yet many, many WASPI women have marched in London several times, and there was absolutely nothing about it on the News or in newspapers.