Epstein/Maxwell/Prin ce Andrew

Maxwell helped recruit many of the girls and appears to have joined in sexual acts in some of the cases.

Many of the girls were trafficked by Epstein to politicians, rich and powerful.

tickingbird is it OK then to have sex with under age girls as long as you do it in nice places? (and give them a nice present afterwards)

I think that any fantasists amongst these girls would have been immediately obvious as they all told the same story. Each was able to exactly describe Epstein’s palm beach mansion, rooms and contents like massage table and instruments.

Many victims who were going to spill the beans, Maxwell phoned and threatened the girls with being hurt or worse if they continued.

Likewise Epstein paid off various publications not to publish.

Every sexual act with a Epstein followed the same pattern so it was easy to work out if the girls were being truthful.

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rosalyn then you don’t understand the psychology between a powerful rich middle aged experienced man using a sexual pyramid scheme and young adolescent.

Maxwell was at the top of the pyramid scheme.

Time and time again those who have met Epstein described how Epstein was an extraordinarily charismatic figure, who always took powerful control of the situation.

That includes any friends businessmen and sexually abused children.

You only have to have taken the time to read about the sex rings in Northern cities in the UK and the ways in which underage girls were drawn in, to know that exploitation is a devious process and escaping is far from easy once you're in the set up.

Just like Saville, Epstein was reported time and again, and nothing was done.

Victims, attorneys and police were intimidated by Epstein.

There was an immense amount of information to prosecute Epstein.
2008 - FBI - case stopped by US Attorney, after Epstein’s lawyers met the US Attorney.

Epstein like so many powerful people was a narcissist who needed to control the situation he is in.

In a surprise deal, before any court case Epstein pleaded guilty and what should have been a thirty year sentence, Epstein agreed to serve 18 months and give immunity against any further investigation along with all co- conspirators.

given immunity

This meant that the victims voices were not heard. The government was complicit in this deal.

I think it was all done to protect the rich and powerful including politicians.

Owned Little St James Virgin Islands. Nicknamed paedophile island.

2004 Andrew Windsor seen with a young girl in sexual foreplay by the pool, by an employee.

In prison. Epstein had his own cell whose door was left open. He had food that no other prisoner had and was on a 12 hour day work agreement, where he was out of the prison throughout that time where he engaged in sexual acts!!

He served 13 months. On probation - violated on a daily basis.

No action was ever taken.

I think the psychology of those older women who also consistently suffered at Epstein’s hands as well as other men is probably similar to women Who are married to abusive husbands.

It is difficult for someone like me who has never suffered such abuse to understand, but I absolutely believe it exists.

Could you trust anything she said anyway?.
Personaly,i`m sick of reading about her/Prince Andrew/ Epstein/Maxwell and all the other wealthy low lives.

Whitewave you seem more than a touch obsessed with this. Over 20 posts on one page.

If an unnamed employee saw it Whitewave it must be true ?

I would say it's quite important to talk about the abuse of women and children.

Windsor bod”offering to speak to” FBI is very different to” answering questions asked” by the FBI isn’t it?