More immigrants crossing the Channel

Could you describe how 'we would do things all by ourselves'- with Maizie's above post in mind? What magic technique could we use. Shoot on sight?

French police may be armed ( and Swiss) biba but not as yet, fortunately in the UK.

Of course it's a dead cat. This has been going on for ages with no media attention. Covid rates rise, the right wing distraction machine swings into action.

By all means, obsess about immigration. But for god's sake, at least acknowledge that you are aware you're being manipulated by the press. Otherwise you're just a pawn.

Sorry to disagree Ellan but a refugee interviewed on TV yesterday actually said that he wanted to come to Britain for a house and benefits because the French won't give him anything.

Asylum seekers who register in France get much the same benefits as those registered in the UK. A small cash allowance and accommodation. Accommodation could be anything from a house to B & B with no choice of destination.

If they expect anything better from the UK they must have been reading the Sun, or the Daily Express...

I have seen it suggested that there is an increase in boat traffic because it is getting very difficult to hide in lorries.

lemongrove- I asked how the Navy or police, or whomever- would protect our borders once boats have left armed police/CRS coast of France.

Could you describe the method/s they would use? Since they can't be returned to France - what else could be done? I am a bit slow - and can't see it myself, so asking for your wisdom and experience.

MaizieD

^Sorry to disagree Ellan but a refugee interviewed on TV yesterday actually said that he wanted to come to Britain for a house and benefits because the French won't give him anything.^

Asylum seekers who register in France get much the same benefits as those registered in the UK. A small cash allowance and accommodation. Accommodation could be anything from a house to B & B with no choice of destination.

If they expect anything better from the UK they must have been reading the Sun, or the Daily Express...

The asylum-seeker said it himself. Why would he say that? Just asking ....

Our NHS and Education system can`t cope as it is,so we really can`t have any more until we CAN cope.
Our own children can`t get a place in the schools they chose as it is.

European human rights court condemns France for treatment of asylum-seekers
02.07.2020

The asylum-seekers from Russia, Iran and Afghanistan filed a complaint after spending months sleeping rough. The ECHR ordered France to pay damages, saying the men suffered "degrading treatment."
The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) on Thursday ordered France to pay compensation to three asylum-seekers who spent months sleeping on the street without any financial support.

The net population in the UK is increasing by 250,000 every year that is fact, we have to control migration.
It’s nothing to do with being left or right we simply must look after our own interests, we what goes on in the rest of the world we cannot control or even influence these days.

The asylum-seeker said it himself. Why would he say that? Just asking ....

Misinformed?

Considering all the misinformation that is exchanged everywhere on social media, in the press etc. there's no guarantee that he's correct. In fact, he isn't. You'd like to believe it, though, wouldn't you, so that you can get cross about it...

I can link you to the website which explains what the French do, if you like?

It's not difficult to find what other European countries provide for asylum seekers; the UK isn't as generous as you'd like to believe. I can link you to other websites...

Even if one accepts the premises of the last 3 comments- the question is still un-answered- so here it is again:

' I asked how the Navy or police, or whomever- would protect our borders once boats have left armed police/CRS coast of France.

Could you describe the method/s they would use? Since they can't be returned to France - what else could be done? I am a bit slow - and can't see it myself, so asking for your wisdom and experience.'

timetogo2016

Our NHS and Education system can`t cope as it is,so we really can`t have any more until we CAN cope.
Our own children can`t get a place in the schools they chose as it is.

Well, people shouldn't have voted tory, should they?

Ten years of tory 'austerity', which was completely unnecessary, and the tory ambition to cut public spending as far as they possibly can (for no good reason, either) is the reason that public services and infrastructure are stretched to breaking point. Not immigration. That's just a myth put about by our disgustingly xenophobic right wing press...

We actually need immigrants as our ageing population retires and there are not enough young people to replace them in jobs.

European human rights court condemns France for treatment of asylum-seekers 02.07.2020

That is so funny, Firecracker in view of the fact that all our xenophobes have been assuring us that France is a 'safe country' for asylum seekers! Doesn't look that brilliant from that account, does it?

Mind you, I'm sure that our government has been taking notes and is dying to try the same treatment out in the UK...

If only.

I think generally we are regarded abroad as a decent and honourable people, we are admired fir doing the right thing and that is what attracts, as well as the fact that most foreigners speak English as a second language and often have family over here which they understandably would like to be close to for support while they do the jobs we no longer want to do.
As to what our border forces will do, they will do what they can under difficult circumstances.... but we aren’t very organised are we, people can and will come in under the radar which means if they are not officially here there will be even more rough sleeping. We don’t have ID cards nor do we have to ( by law) report to the local police if we move to a different area.
As far as I see we have shot our selves in the foot by leaving Europe and have no option now but to stand alone from 1.1.21 and hope for the best.

Firecracker123

If only.

Trying to decide whether or not to report that.

Report it why not add another to the list

Perhaps we now know who is in the forum police

Urmstongran take note

They are illegal immigrants and have broken our laws to enter the country. On this basis alone, they should be immediately deported. I cannot see why we don't have boats patrolling our waters so that they can turn them around. GB's finances are already in a parlous state - we do not need people who have not contributed to the pot and will be drain all of the time they are with us.

MaizieD since you have stated ‘all our xenophobes have been assuring us that France is a safe country’ etc ( insults to posters because they don’t agree with you) you can’t clutch your pearls by threatening to report others for no good reason.

Ten years of tory 'austerity', which was completely unnecessary,

Why do people still say that??

Do some research. The whole of the EU went through years of anusterity

Massive protests all over the place

I'm sure all these countries felt that it was necessry

It’s become a cliche to trot out Oopsminty..... and it’s a pretty stupid one too.

a cliche of anusterity - love that - wonderful