Where's the P.M.? Shouldn't he be in view, not hiding away ?

Never mind, thats another thread.

Do start another thread on it, vegansrock.

I'm interested in why you think that thy're not part of our culture.

maddyone

I may be incorrect but I thought we are governed by The Cabinet. And then Parliament.

It's a bit more subtle than that.

The 'government', i.e the body that decides policy and proposes legislation, rules the country but it is answerable to Parliament (which represents 'the people') and Parliament can overrule the government if it has a mind to do so.

As the government has a majority of the votes in parliament it is unlikely to be overruled, unless it tries to push through legislation which is felt by even its own MPs to be damaging, or just completely wrong. In that case they may be defeated because their own MPs vote against them in enough numbers as to destroy their majority.

Never lose sight of the principle that Parliament , the Legislature, is the sovereign body, not the Executive (the government)

The Executive rules on behalf of the monarch. It is the 'monarch in parliament'. Parliamentary sovereignty is meant to check any monarchical tyranny.

We fought a Civil War in the 17th C and executed the monarch to establish this principle. The current government is trying very hard to overturn it.

The songs aren't "part of our culture", maybe you should research the history of these songs, which, btw are rarely sung outside a specific concert. I bet if you asked 100 people in the street about these songs 90 of them wouldn't have a clue. Never mind, thats another thread.
Johnson is getting a few photo ops in hard hat and high viz- I wonder if he has his own set made specially for the camera?Is it to get his picture in the paper so people think he's working?

An educationalist is a teacher or someone who works in education.

I may be incorrect but I thought we are governed by The Cabinet. And then Parliament.

When an "educationalist" (whatever that might be) doesn't have some knowledge of these two songs I truly despair. You don't need to be able to sing to know the words.They are part of our culture.

^You've 'no knowledge' of 'Rule Britannia' and 'Land of Hope and Glory'?

Something smells very fishy here if that is true.^

Nope * MaizieD*. I'm hopeless with patriotic songs, tone deaf too! I only know God save the Queen when everyone stands up.

I might be an expert on ichthyology though.

Sadly I have no knowledge of the songs being discussed

WHAT?

You've 'no knowledge' of 'Rule Britannia' and 'Land of Hope and Glory'?

Something smells very fishy here if that is true...

I'm finding it very strange that all these accusations of hiding, elusiveness, nowhere to be seen etc. generate more interest than if the guy were out on the streets every day, (which he is now doing)? Boris would need a 24 hour direct line to the nation if he were to comment on every single issue.

Admittedly he isn't always spot on with the content of what he says because he relies heavily on advisors,

He makes it up as he goes along. Complete and utter ignorant bullshit and lies. Every single time...

Startling that people are quite happy for him to 'rely heavily on advisers'. Openly admitting that he's just a puppet.

Isn't a PM supposed to have a brain of their own and to be on top of their brief whenever they speak in public?

Don’t you find it just a wee bit worrying that our PM’s concern was equally distributed between schools (hugely important both now and for the future of the country) and the trivial matter of a media-led non-issue of jingoistic songs?
The former issue is of great interest to me geekesse as a grandparent and an educationalist.
Sadly I have no knowledge of the songs being discussed but I am broad minded and tolerant enough to realise this is of interest to a large group of people. Maybe this is Boris' appeal in that he can address wide ranging intellectual issues while seeming to get down to frivolities.
I'd quite like to employ an applicant who picks up on the diverse mood of the workplace. My employees would need a soul as well as a brain.

Ellianne

I thought Boris was on good form yesterday in the couple of clips I saw. A bit of the pre covid rhetoric had returned. I think he was talking about schools and the proms with equal passion, and throwing his thoughts out there. Admittedly he isn't always spot on with the content of what he says because he relies heavily on advisors, but here he was pretty adamant and convincing. Maybe he is switching into wake up mode, and getting himself noticed again.

Don’t you find it just a wee bit worrying that our PM’s concern was equally distributed between schools (hugely important both now and for the future of the country) and the trivial matter of a media-led non-issue of jingoistic songs?

He’d fail an in-tray exercise if he ever had to apply for a proper job.

A well controlled capitalist economy has to be the way forward and always will be
Is this meant to be ironic? We have after all just left an organisation which was in the process of introducing tax restrictions and we are about to spiral into the economic chaos of a no-deal Brexit. -Poverty- you ain't seen nothing yet!

Perhaps try adding a smiley face occasionally? That’d help.
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Don’t take everything so seriously. It was an attempt at humour. Clearly misunderstood.
A bit à la Boris, then?!

Don’t take everything so seriously. It was an attempt at humour. Clearly misunderstood. Think I’ll go and chat to my vegetable patch now.

A well controlled capitalist economy has to be the way forward and always will be.
And it has been shown to improve poverty too.

Urmstongran

Why do you always sound so bitter Furret about other people’s lifestyle choices? Sad really.

Irony is truly dead!

Ellianne

^What? A capitalist?^
I am not entering into an unfair discussion about a poster's work ethics, that is for them to explain if they wish.
Private enterprise and freedom of choice actually help to increase economic performance in my experience.

Well said Ellianne?

A well controlled capitalist economy has to be the way forward and always will be.

Anyway off to the office I must go, although strangely at the age of 76 it may be that shortly I will be able to retire.

The Covid crisis has meant that their are now persons out their with the Qualifications we require for our business. That will allow me to at long last sit back at least to some extent. ??

Why do you always sound so bitter Furret about other people’s lifestyle choices? Sad really.

What? A capitalist?
I am not entering into an unfair discussion about a poster's work ethics, that is for them to explain if they wish.
Private enterprise and freedom of choice actually help to increase economic performance in my experience.

More fool then ‘the people’.

Unfortunately Boris’ rhetoric is just that‘language designed to have a persuasive or impressive effect, but which is often regarded as lacking in sincerity or meaningful content’.
Maybe Furret but it does stir up the people. His capacity for rallying the people is all there but he does rely heavily on his bombastic style which was lacking lately.

Ellianne

^Does your employers know how much time you spend on social mediagrandadwhen you are ‘in the office’?^
That's not fair Furret. Grandad has told us 20 times he runs his own company. He can do what he likes.
However, he hardly ever posts during the day, only at breakfast time and in the evening.
Do keep up!

What? A capitalist?

Unfortunately Boris’ rhetoric is just that ‘language designed to have a persuasive or impressive effect, but which is often regarded as lacking in sincerity or meaningful content’.

It doesn’t translate into meaningful anything, certainly not action,