Where's the P.M.? Shouldn't he be in view, not hiding away ?

It just seemed to me that once Boris wasn’t found out to be lying again (Oh the disappointment!) the meanies on here took to deriding his figure and holiday wear. That’s why I said ‘haters are gonna hate’. Nothing Boris does will gain any upticks on these threads!

What he wears, looks like etc is not the point of this thread. The point is his poor leadership. Nothing to do with being “haters” or “meanies” “spite”. “Venom” .
Everyone would like to think they deserved a holiday of course, but there are plenty who don’t manage to get one, and I think Johnson has shown poor judgement by staying away at this time.

Ooops what on earth did I do there .

Approximately only 30% of Civil
Servants have returned to their desks the rest are working from home /remotely.

I think those on here who are under the impression that the PM is not working whilst in Scotland are naive.

If anything good comes out of the pandemic it will be that desk jobs whether they’re be low grade or higher up can be done just as well from the kitchen table or anywhere else with Internet connection!

I do feel that some of the electorate are still struggling with the fact that the Conservatives won with an 80 seat majority.

The PM fulfilled his election promise to get the UK out of the EU.

Jabberwok

Apart from Grandad, the spite and venom on a personal level on here from so called intelligent left wing people (all those degrees!!) is actually pitiful and deeply unpleasant! I wonder what some of us look like when photographed on the hop in bracing weather?! Not a pretty sight I guess! Comments about not having any clothes on, snigger snigger! How pathetic is that from grown people (with degrees!) You all complain about the the Daily Mail, but you seem to echo that rag perfectly! Again, apart from Grandad who is clearly the only adult in the left wing room, disgusting!
And No, it was the WA that was oven ready, not the trade deal!

Is this some kind of parody?

*they’re should be they

Lucca you are so right.
There is great concern about the u-turns, the lack of leadership and the contracts handed out without tenders, lack of ability in the cabinet , the influence of Cummings etc.
If you had a poor job done by a plumber you would surely complain.Why not about a poor job done by a weak P.M. leading an ineffective government.?

* I think those on here who are under the impression that the PM is not working whilst in Scotland are naive.*

I think people are talking about being visibly in charge.

I do not need to see the PM or Ministers rolled out at every opportunity to know that they are in charge

varian

You and your fellow Johnson fans have always been a minority UG

Yes, I expect that’s why he won the GE with such a huge majority?
Johnson won’t be pushed out by Gove or anyone else....it’s simply wishful thinking.
Never mind, anyone unhappy can sign the online petition to get rid of the government and start a new breakaway group.
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I do think that the pile-on to another poster is beginning to look like bullies in the playground who cannot have their own way?

Thank you GG13 I’m feeling a bit battered!

The PM fulfilled his election promise to get the UK out of the EU.

I don't recall him making an election promise to destroy our constitution, to distribute public money to cronies and to let Russians into government. But he's doing it.

What really pees me off about this is that you lot defend Johnson for being out of sight on his fourth or fifth holiday of the year but you are so silent on his destruction of parliamentary democracy, the absolute incompetence of the government and the looting of the public purse.

You don't even try to defend it...

(And if Johnson has said that he's staying in that tent he's absolutely lying through his teeth again. It's not even put up properly...)

UG. With respect would you look at my post again? I’m not piling in to you I am just responding to accusations of “hating”

Actually GG13 I think it’s exactly that!
Making their comments to Urmstongran so personal is their own little equivalent of chucking eggs at Johnson.It’s silly and juvenile.

GrannyGravy13

I do not need to see the PM or Ministers rolled out at every opportunity to know that they are ^in charge^

of course not at every opportunity but I think with a crisis like the exams one it would have been good idea ?

GrannyGravy13

I do think that the pile-on to another poster is beginning to look like bullies in the playground who cannot have their own way?

I think that if you vote for the indefensible and don't give a monkeys about the consequences you're better off keeping your head down...

How please are the comments “so personal “?

I know Lucca. You’re quite right. My comment was tongue in cheek really which doesn’t show on a post.

If I couldn’t stand the heat I’d get out of the kitchen!
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I’m not getting involved one way or the other in this ‘debate’. However a couple of sayings which I think may apply to some

‘It is only when we stop desperately trying to prove a point that reason prevails’

‘Some people try to create their own storms, then get upset when it rains’

Just saying ......

I’ve brought my brolly.

On the subject of seeing Johnson ( all the visibly in charge stuff) things are better than they were ( Covid) so why shouldn’t he and his family have a Scottish break before September.Like all PM’s there will still be constant phone calls/ briefings/ paperwork even on holiday.

GrannyGravy13 many people may be still working from home, but they are still at home, and working usually requires that they log in and out at certain times, and be available during certain hours. They are not off on holiday somewhere, and isn't one of the attractions of Glamping that all connectons such as the internet/phone/social media are unavailable? Suggesting that Boris is working in any way similar to the average office home worker is an insult to them.

Yes....they are off on holiday somewhere! Thousands of people are having a Summer break, so much so that you can hardly book a self catering cottage/ campsite before the end of September.

People working from home still take annual leave to which they are entitled. No one I know has been working from home since the beginning of March without a break.