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Where's the P.M.? Shouldn't he be in view, not hiding away ?

(512 Posts)
westendgirl Thu 20-Aug-20 12:13:28

Look at the disruptions of recent days;
Exam results and fudged response from Education secretary , passing the buck,stretching the truth about when he really knew about the algorithm,

increase in covid figures
;
Migrants in small boats and Patel's response,

News of contract to work on Ofqual awarded to long term associates of Gove and Cummings without tender.

Not removing whip from MP accused of rape.

So it goes on .Surely a P.M worth his salt should give the nation the impression he is in charge.As usual Johnson is nowhere to be seen.

varian Thu 20-Aug-20 20:59:41

Liar

biba70 Thu 20-Aug-20 21:10:09

but she likes him ;) (why, how ? just can't imagine, but sad )

growstuff Thu 20-Aug-20 21:12:45

varian

I would be cheered up by an honourable, diligent, honest PM, but not by this immoral, lazy, luar UG.Have you no sense of decency?

Is that a rhetorical question?

Urmstongran Thu 20-Aug-20 21:40:47

Boris won an 80 seat majority. I have a lot of fellow cheerleaders it seems.

Actually you’re the ones in the minority!

paddyanne Thu 20-Aug-20 21:49:01

Can I ask a question ..please ,Why would you want a PM who "cheers you up" and not one who can do a good job who might not be the life and sould of the party? I remember all this dour scot stuff when Gordon Brown was PM ,maybe he should have walked about with a stupid grin on his face ..IMAGE is not the most important part of being PM ...well not in my book.I didn't vote for G Brown so not backing my own choice

biba70 Thu 20-Aug-20 22:00:20

these days are long gone Urmstongran - do you actually believe Johnson would win now? Really?

He is oven-ready ! (and yes HE did promise an oven-ready DEAL)

MayBee70 Thu 20-Aug-20 22:08:10

Have people forgotten that Johnson lied to the Queen: amongst all his other lies? Is that now ok?

MayBee70 Thu 20-Aug-20 22:17:53

In fact, he’s lied about so many things every now and again it jolts me when I remember something else he’s done.

varian Thu 20-Aug-20 23:04:16

You and your fellow Johnson fans have always been a minority UG

vegansrock Fri 21-Aug-20 05:28:42

After a week of omnishambles in exam results, where everyone is blamed except those responsible, one wonders where the “buck stops”, if not at those in government. Johnson fans excuse him of everything - even doing sod all, lying , giving handouts to cronies. When will they see the emperor has no clothes? ( though Johnson with no clothes is not a pleasant image).

Ellianne Fri 21-Aug-20 06:37:04

though Johnson with no clothes is not a pleasant image. You're right on that one vegansrock.
Macron is far more preferable with no clothes on!

Pantglas2 Fri 21-Aug-20 06:45:38

How lovely Macron looks (his Greek and Spanish counterparts are equally delectable # them out!)

Meanwhile, the Greater Spotted Boris has been captured - looking like Worzel Gummidge!

MaizieD Fri 21-Aug-20 07:33:29

Meanwhile, the Greater Spotted Boris has been captured - looking like Worzel Gummidge!

Benny from Crossroads was the comparison being used last night on twitter...?

Urmstongran Fri 21-Aug-20 08:01:07

So, after all the snide comments, Boris is on holiday in Scotland as he said - not Italy for Stanley’s 80th birthday then, not Greece.

A glamping holiday after all (albeit with a cottage attached).

So many meanies on this thread. I suppose haters are gonna hate.

Grandad1943 Fri 21-Aug-20 08:08:02

Urmstongran

So, after all the snide comments, Boris is on holiday in Scotland as he said - not Italy for Stanley’s 80th birthday then, not Greece.

A glamping holiday after all (albeit with a cottage attached).

So many meanies on this thread. I suppose haters are gonna hate.

Well said Urmstongran, at least as leader Boris has been visible often during the crisis.

Starmer however, has been almost completely invisible or bringing up the rear of comment whenever a crisis breaks.

The "Dear Leader" has definitely been found wanting.

Come back May and Corbyn all is forgiven. ???

Ellianne Fri 21-Aug-20 08:16:59

Well glamping in Scotland is quite trendy, so I'm sure he will enjoy his stay, and to be fair he does look suitably attired for the weather.
I am not associated with the haters, Urmstongran, the Macron pictures were to show each leader to his own (country) on holiday this year. We had our property vetted for Cameron and family once, the lengths they go to for security is mind blowing.
I've always read that Boris' style is that of a delegator and that he chooses the best possible team to do the work for him. A bit like the Headmaster someone mentioned earlier who pops out of his study to read from the notebook. If anything the haters are justified in attacking some of the advisors but not necessarily Boris himself if that is his style.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 21-Aug-20 08:27:22

ellainne delegator????

Jabberwok Fri 21-Aug-20 08:28:05

Apart from Grandad, the spite and venom on a personal level on here from so called intelligent left wing people (all those degrees!!) is actually pitiful and deeply unpleasant! I wonder what some of us look like when photographed on the hop in bracing weather?! Not a pretty sight I guess! Comments about not having any clothes on, snigger snigger! How pathetic is that from grown people (with degrees!) You all complain about the the Daily Mail, but you seem to echo that rag perfectly! Again, apart from Grandad who is clearly the only adult in the left wing room, disgusting!
And No, it was the WA that was oven ready, not the trade deal!

Lucca Fri 21-Aug-20 08:28:23

Are “haters” only those who don’t vote conservative ? Or who disapprove of the governments actions ? Sorry but I think it’s a silly term, but if it is a real “thing “ then there’s a whole thread full of them on another part of Gransnet !

vegansrock Fri 21-Aug-20 08:46:57

Did the “lovers “ not criticise Corbyn, Abbott and co? Were they then not “haters”? So criticise a useless pm for being useless is “hating”? Criticism
Is not the same as hating btw

Ellianne Fri 21-Aug-20 08:54:06

Jabberwok I don't always agree with those so called intelligent left wing people (all those with degrees!!) and I have two! I was rather hoping though that they were mentally astute enough to understand the imagery that we are a reflection of our own country in how we dress and behave, especially on holiday. It was merely a light hearted observation.
The Daily Mail, although not my read, reflects the mentality of the people in this country too. That's how it is.

biba70 Fri 21-Aug-20 08:56:25

photoshopping is so useful these days - Glamping in Scotland, with all the midgies and a new baby- lol.

MaizieD Fri 21-Aug-20 09:01:25

Just amazed at the lengths people are prepared to go to defend a thoroughly worthless individual. I can only think that they have no respect at all for the democratic institutions that he is allowing to be trashed and they approve of vast amounts of public money being showered on government cronies for contracts that haven't been properly tendered for and which haven't been effectively fulfilled.

Oh, and they're perfectly happy that Russia has a finger in our pies...

Many of us questioned the moral compass of Johnson supporters before he was even elected. I think we now know that they have none.

westendgirl Fri 21-Aug-20 09:02:23

I don't understand the use of the word "haters ". As far as I am concerned I do not know Johnson and therefore am completely indifferent to him as a person.
What does concern me is that this country is floundering under his direction as Prime Minister. It's all right saying that he delegates, but if those chosen to carry out the work are not up to the task and are not removed then I feel we should express our concern and this applies to the P.M.too.
I cannot see why he should not be at the helm visibly and am sure lots of young people felt that he should have addressed them and apologised. The success of this government is up to him.,so instead of delegation he should try leadership.










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Whitewavemark2 Fri 21-Aug-20 09:03:05

Johnson is having a well earned break from a well earned break!

Mombiot.