A group has been created with the aim of removing the government

Sorry Callistemon You're probably right but my most recent experience of dealing with a car salesman who turned out to be a conman has probably coloured my view. From what I've seen of Gavin Williamson I'd also be a bit wary when dealing with a fireplace salesman.

He could be very busy trying to work out how their brains work ?

I dismissed Sir Colin Blakemore , surely someone who studies
development of the brain wouldn’t come up with starting a
group to throw out the government?

What snobby remarks!

I think they are uncalled for, and no, I do not have any car salesmen in the family so have no axe to grind.

If he was a car salesman he could well be up to the standard of the current govt ministers. Gavin Williamson used to be a fireplace salesman.

Your Colin Blakemore doesn't sound anywhere near as distinguished as mine Ramblingrose. How do we know which it is?

PS I see he used to be a car salesman!

The lib /dems can't even elect a new leader! What hope of a coalition that could agree on anything, never mind everything!
As you say annie, clear as mud!!!

varian - this is the chap:

beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/9f-PzVmkc0G7YRhsYFDR7SL15DA/appointments

Hope the link works.

The trouble is that with this useless inadequate corrupt government people are wondering what can they do to lesson will the damage

But that sentiment is expressed about every government we've had!

I've heard of Professor Colin Blakemore - surely not him?

Any change needs to come from within the Parliamentary Conservative Party itself. Where are they?

A group has been created with the aim of removing the government^

That is what is termed as anarchy.

We've had useless governments before now and usually have to wait for a General Election to change things. That is democracy.

Perhaps we should be seeking to over-turn the Fixed Term Parliament act of 2011.

I've heard of Colin Blakemore but can't bring him to min.

Annie says she's searched for a Colin Blakemore and can't find anything. Could this be the chap?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_Blakemore

Thank you Jabber. As clear as mud isn’t it ?

Davidhs

The Tories have the “whip hand” with an 80 seat majority but they are not stupid, we have seen this week how they will bend and change policy with strong public reaction to exam results.

That is how it will be, determined reaction will change policies as it did with Thatcher over the Poll Tax.

That's how it should be and shows that democracy does work. My fear would be that populism isn't necessarily good, but that's a wider debate.

Democracy isn't just for elections!

Going back to Grany's explanation of "the plan" -

"If enough people (>50% of the electorate) can be brought together the government would have no choice but back down!"

Question 1 : how would the numbers be brought together? We operate in a Parliamentary democracy, not through disaffected people forming a new Facebook or Whatsapp group. How would they even exercise power?

Question 2: How would the current Governmen be forced to "back down"? A few disaffected Tory MPs might split off if they hate what the Government is doing but their majority is unassailable.

"The government would then be replaced by a Temporary National Coalition government who would implement an electoral system of proportional representation. All we need is for everyone to join together!"

Question 3: How will the new group, who are not in Parliament, organise this? Is the suggestion that a group of MPs will represent the new group or that the new group will operate outside Parliament and form a new Government?

This new group needs to get real! The current Government isn't going to resign.

The only way to defeat a majority of 80 at the next General Election is for all the parties who are not Tory to form a grand coalition to oppose the next Government. Even that is unlikely because they disagree with each other on many things.

Grany. There is a name for what you are suggesting

DEMOCKRACY!!!

Hi POGS I have searched for a Colin Blakemore, nothing.

On the other hand, lively political discussion is to be encouraged.

I wouldn’t give the group the crumbs from under my table, let alone any of my money, for the very reasons POGS has stated.
Is it allowed to promote groups asking for money on Gransnet?

GillT57 There's no way that they're going to own the mess that they've made. If they had any consciences there would have been at least one resignation by now. If we could get rid of them now the chaos that's going to follow with Brexit might be mitigated.

Grany

You are asking GN posters to join or give money to this 'group.'

I believe it is incumbent of you to tell posters what information you have re Colin Blakemore and this 'group' if asked, I am asking.

Who is Colin Blakemore?

What is his background?

What is his political backround, he is obviously left wing but is he Communist/Marxist or what?

Is Colin Blakemore asking as individual or is he backed by another party/source?

What is the name of the 'group'?

What due diggigence have you done to put a link to his Go Fund Me Page before asking others on the Gransnet Site to give money or join.

I am fully aware it upto individuals as to whether or not they join or give money but it is up to you to ensure the credibility of something you are promoting and I am asking a reasonable question and you are the promoter so you are the one to ask questions of.

Thank you.

And what may one ask would replace them. The same inexperience and incompetence - heaven help us! These are individuals who were never competent enough to run Britain in the first place. They were ill prepared because their thought process unable to understand the meaning of "be prepared". And lets face it, none have ever had to stand on their feet and faced life head on, or been tested for the ability to deal with reality.

Grandad

I was including media support for any public reaction, the press do support the fair issues in most cases

Davidhs

The Tories have the “whip hand” with an 80 seat majority but they are not stupid, we have seen this week how they will bend and change policy with strong public reaction to exam results.

That is how it will be, determined reaction will change policies as it did with Thatcher over the Poll Tax.

Davidhs just to say that public opinion did not see Dominic Cummings go out the door a few weeks back. The reaction to Cummings antics of one rule for government advisers and another for the rest of the population was the strongest on social media and by the mainstream press I have ever witnessed.

However, no move by this government and they now appear to have weathered that storm.

I was once informed by a GN member that it was the intelligent thing to do, to change ones mind/actions when it is found that your original thoughts/plans are wrong or detrimental

The Government have changed the policy on exam results.......good decision? of course not because it is the Conservatives.