Could you imagine Mrs Thatcher breaking the law?

Heads of civil service letter.

Good article about our corrupt neofascist government.

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Urmstongran

Shall we have another thread about the treat negotiations? Otherwise we will end up conflating that important topic with this one about Maggie Thatcher.
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The whole point of this thread was the unbelieveable statement from the NI Minister that the proposed legislation would breach international law and that Thatcher would never have done such a thing.

Maybe it was a bit too subtle for some people...

It amuses me at the way the Brexiters rant on about this. Fictitious enemy.

We have left the EU all bar the shouting.

We are now trying to negotiate a trade deal, which we will be doing with every other country in the world.

Doesn’t bode well does it if this is anything to go by?

Of course it was sold as the easiest thing in the world, and those warning that it wouldn’t be easy were told project fear.

Hmmm.

Apologies MaizieD you are of course correct. That said, a more directly worded thread might garner more replies.

Urmstongran

Apologies MaizieD you are of course correct. That said, a more directly worded thread might garner more replies.

Blimey ug we aren’t primary school age!!

My understanding of the OP was how much the UK has sunk morally. It's already lost much of its power militaristically and economically on the world stage, but it did have a good reputation as a stable country which respected that law is the guiding principle of how the country is run, as it has been since the Magna Carta.

I didn't agree with Thatcher at all, but I do think she had ethical standards and would not have broken international law, as is now being proposed by this despicable government.

The UK has become a laughing stock. One respectable German newspaper just laughs at the UK. Johnson himself is described as a "spätimperialistischer Oxfordschnösel" (late imperialist Oxford snotty-nosed brat).

Late imperialist Oxford snotty nosed brat.

I shall never think of Johnson any other way now ??

Threads meander.

I don't know if Thatcher broke any laws. She did bulldoze over ethics, morals, compassion and decency towards the most vulnerable of society. She may have been a 'conviction politician' but she was a monster.

Theresa May would not have broken the law either.

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ClareAB

I don't know if Thatcher broke any laws. She did bulldoze over ethics, morals, compassion and decency towards the most vulnerable of society. She may have been a 'conviction politician' but she was a monster.

I agree with you, but the question is whether she would actually have treated the law with such contempt and I don't think she would have done. Apart from being a scientist, she was also a barrister. PMQs between Thatcher and Starmer would have been interesting.

MaizieD

Whitewavemark2

Late imperialist Oxford snotty nosed brat.

I shall never think of Johnson any other way now ??

I'm afraid that 'fat slob' is still my no. 1

Blimey ug we aren’t primary school age!!

Really?

I’d have paid good money to see that too Growstuff! I suspect Starmer would be too gentlemanly to cope though - she rarely thought any man was her equal and regularly gave them short shrift!

Oh, dear, Bodach don't be taken in by the attitude to Churchill in Scotland after the war, which was of course positive because of his leadership. Dundee hated him as well.
He was MP for Dundee for 14 years 1908 - 1922. Rarely visited and stayed in a local hotel when he did. Sent in the Black Watch to control demonstrations in the city. Eventually he lost his seat to the only Temperance MP ever, Edwin Scrymgeour. As he left Dundee after losing he said “I will see the grass grow green over the industrial wasteland of Dundee.” A real charmer.

Sorry, I've gone off topic again.

We all knew where we stood with Thatcher. When she was defeated, it was because people had had enough of so-called Thatcherite policies - and, of course, Blair was the new kid on the block.

I think it's all about personalities now, although I do think that ploy us wearing a bit thin. Can anybody actually list any "Johnsonite" policies? Which three words would people use to describe the government?

Pantglas2

I’d have paid good money to see that too Growstuff! I suspect Starmer would be too gentlemanly to cope though - she rarely thought any man was her equal and regularly gave them short shrift!

I think she'd have the upper hand too, although she might have pushed Starmer to new highs. At the moment, the only challenge he has is to supervise a petulant toddler.

At least it would have been an intelligent debate.

Which three words would people use to describe the government?


do you want us all banned from GN?

Bodach I can assure you I got that information from FAMILY who were at that demo.Its been whitewashed as much of history has ,in favour of the MUCH hated Churchill over the years.Not just for the george Sq bebacle but for the 1000's of SCOTTISH soldiers abandoned in the Dunhirk campaign and the remarks made by him about them being "NO GREAT LOSS" My uncles were all AT Dunkirk ,all came home damaged physically or mentally .Churchill wasn't the GREAT leader he was claimed to be .Maybe read some REAL history about the evil man and the millions of deaths he was responsible for.Oh and Sparkling I'm Scottish NOT English and I ;m not really interested in English history....except where it has affected the running of MY country to its detriment .That sadly has been a lot and hopefuly not for much longer .

The Royal Norfolks and the Ox and Bucks were also left behind paddyann. My mother's cousin was killed when the O &B were surrounded and were fought to a standstill! My father was killed while serving in Bomber command, and another uncle killed in North Africa. It wasn't only Scottish families who suffered loss during that war.

Oh and Sparkling I'm Scottish NOT English and I ;m not really interested in English history.


That could be described as one of your more daft statements, paddyann!

Oh and Sparkling I'm Scottish NOT English and I'm not really interested in English history.

Why's that daft Callistemon? Seems pretty factual to me... paddyanne can be interested or not interested in whatever she likes.

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