Thankyou GillT57. Churchill was a brilliant war leader but a good peacetime PM (1951) he was not! My father was killed serving as air crew in Bomber Comand, and I resented not receiving any recognition whatsoever for his, and all those in air crews bravery once the war ended, (not even a mention ) both for my mother for me, for 70 years. To late for her of course, and too little grudgingly given after years of campaigning, for me. I was really just pointing out that despite this admiration for Winston he wasn't quite as noble as some people think! Mrs Thatcher was a much better PM in every way - streets ahead of Winston imo!