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suziewoozie Sat 19-Sept-20 14:25:45

I have always felt that the process of appointing US Supreme Court Judges to be frighteningly flawed and following the death of RBG, all the more so. It’s appalling they are appointed for life and in such a political manner. I’m also all the more concerned now because if Trump gets his way, we over here will be affected by the attack and lessening of the rights of women and other minorities.

Btw I’ve left the other thread on RBG for tributes to her and started this one to discuss the political ramifications.

crazygranny Sun 20-Sept-20 09:42:33

Sorry, should have said the recordings are on youtube

Athenia Sun 20-Sept-20 09:42:20

Tragically, the Supreme Court of America is already exerting its influence in our country. The ongoing trial in the Old Bailey in central London of an innocent journalist is a mighty battle for the freedom of the press to print the truth. The outcome will affect all of us, because unless Julian Assange is freed, America will extradite him and imprison him for life.

In effect, the powers that be dislike the revelation by Julian Assange of the deliberate murder by American soldiers of civilians during the Iraq war.
I urge you all to research the facts of this case and decide for yourself.

crazygranny Sun 20-Sept-20 09:39:48

The Trump cult will show its stunning hypocrisy yet again by shoving in place the most right wing individual from the list they have compiled. It has been McConnell's sworn policy to swing the American judicial system as far right as possible with the ultimate aim of overturning the right to abortion and other personal freedoms. If you have time check out the Lindsey Graham recordings from his opposition to the timing of the appointment of Merrick Garland - he asks to be held accountable if he supports an attempt by a republican president to push through an appointment during the year of an election. But Graham and the others of the Trump cult will bulldoze an appointment through because they now have no shame and no moral compass. Poor, poor America.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 20-Sept-20 07:00:20

My goodness the next generation is going to have to deal with a totally different America.

I guess the pro-lifers will the first in line to test the law.

rosecarmel Sat 19-Sept-20 23:27:59

absent

Senate Leader Mitch McConnell blocked President Obama's "pick" on the grounds that it was an election year, although it was some months until the election. The same Mitch McConnell has stated, almost within minutes of the announcement of Justice Ginsberg's death, that he will bring Donald Trump's candidate to the vote immediately. A small number – four, so far, I think –of Republican senators have said that they will vote against a new appointee at this time. One of the four has a habit of changing her mind.

Thats it in a nutshell, currently-

The next inauguration is scheduled for 1/20/21- The new justice would need to be appointed before that date-

4 months from now-

SueDonim Sat 19-Sept-20 23:00:44

suziewoozie

The Democrats have no power in this as they are not in the majority in the senate. I said the Democrats have... oh never mind ????

I think the Republicans are claiming that because this time they control the Senate and there’s a Republican President they are entitled to push through their candidate.

With Obama, the Republicans held the Senate so they could stop his candidate.

biba70 Sat 19-Sept-20 22:04:02

Truly shocking and hypocritcal/cynical. Hope the world will expose this.

absent Sat 19-Sept-20 21:10:05

Senate Leader Mitch McConnell blocked President Obama's "pick" on the grounds that it was an election year, although it was some months until the election. The same Mitch McConnell has stated, almost within minutes of the announcement of Justice Ginsberg's death, that he will bring Donald Trump's candidate to the vote immediately. A small number – four, so far, I think –of Republican senators have said that they will vote against a new appointee at this time. One of the four has a habit of changing her mind.

suziewoozie Sat 19-Sept-20 21:02:14

The Democrats have no power in this as they are not in the majority in the senate. I said the Democrats have... oh never mind ????

Whitewavemark2 Sat 19-Sept-20 20:57:26

suziewoozie

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/09/18/politics/merrick-garland-senate-republicans-timeline/index.html

Here’s the full story behind the Obama nomination. MOnica can post it again for you to read as obvs my posts aren’t appearing ???

???

Greeneyedgirl Sat 19-Sept-20 20:56:38

I think it’s very concerning especially as the Senate has a 53 to 47 Republican majority. Very bad outlook for the US and particularly women, if Trump manages to appoint a Republican Supreme Court Judge.

Where the US goes, UK often follows ? How long will we have an independent judiciary?

suziewoozie Sat 19-Sept-20 20:56:04

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/09/18/politics/merrick-garland-senate-republicans-timeline/index.html

Here’s the full story behind the Obama nomination. MOnica can post it again for you to read as obvs my posts aren’t appearing ???

biba70 Sat 19-Sept-20 20:55:10

Invisible poster???

Ah, been doing a bit og Googling- let's hope the Democrats will turn the Dems trick of a few years ago agaisnt them.

suziewoozie Sat 19-Sept-20 20:43:53

Ditto my comment about it being the Senate. Never mind?

suziewoozie Sat 19-Sept-20 20:42:52

The invisible poster ?

M0nica Sat 19-Sept-20 20:38:45

Trump is trying to what Obama wanted to do when a Supreme Court Justice died a few months before his term ended, but the Republicans stopped it.

Sauce for the goos eshould be sauce for the gander. Lets hope a group of Democratic Congress members/Senators do the same to Trump

suziewoozie Sat 19-Sept-20 20:10:41

It was in the February of his last year. The Senate stopped him on grounds it was too late in his presidency. It was all part of the bloody awful way Obama was stymied every which way but loose during his presidency.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 19-Sept-20 19:53:09

Strictly isn’t much of it - too much talking.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 19-Sept-20 19:52:32

Be interesting to see what you find.

The judiciary are political appointees in USA.

Cummings we know is going after the judiciary, but I hope he doesn’t follow USA.

Our independent system serves us very well.

biba70 Sat 19-Sept-20 19:48:42

Thanks, can't blame you for sure- and might join you in a mo.

I have to admit to being hugle ignorant about this US Supreme Court- so lots of Googling required.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 19-Sept-20 19:38:16

I don’t know - it was on the BBC you know the stuff that goes along the bottom.

Could try googling it!

I’m having a bit of escapism with Strictly. I don’t really like it much but needs must!

biba70 Sat 19-Sept-20 19:33:51

Do you have any links to that effect? Please. How was he blocked, on what grounds ???

Whitewavemark2 Sat 19-Sept-20 19:26:56

I see that Obama was blocked from appointing in 2016. So let’s hope it can happen this time around.

biba70 Sat 19-Sept-20 19:08:52

It is seriously worrying? As Sue says, Justice should not be political.

suziewoozie Sat 19-Sept-20 18:48:44

The small group of more ‘liberal’ Republican senators have form on talking the talk and then melting away sadly