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Uh Uh Harry ?

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Calendargirl Wed 23-Sept-20 18:40:49

Oh Harry.

Please leave the political comments to Meghan.

Just keep it zipped

?

Lucca Sun 04-Oct-20 18:11:34

Seriously give it a rest. Photos of children are just that. No need to read a million meanings into them.

merlotgran Sun 04-Oct-20 18:13:45

Okey Doke.

Lucca Sun 04-Oct-20 18:16:02

Thank you Merlotgran.

Grany Sun 04-Oct-20 18:47:22

My reply to Stephen Fry. And why the monarchy doesn't work Graham Smith

m.youtube.com/watch?v=EIWeg2Glj-Q

trisher Mon 05-Oct-20 11:42:33

Thanks Grany really interesting.

Anniebach Mon 05-Oct-20 11:59:49

Graham Smith is chief executive of ‘Republic’, it’s mission is to abolish the monarchy .

Republicans would find it interesting

Oopsminty Mon 05-Oct-20 12:05:35

Republic Campaign doesn't appear to have many subscribers.

38k likes on FB

I think the monarchy will live to fight another day

With or without H&M

trisher Mon 05-Oct-20 13:27:49

Anniebach

Graham Smith is chief executive of ‘Republic’, it’s mission is to abolish the monarchy .

Republicans would find it interesting

Whereas some Royalists simply don't want to debate or examine their argument carefully for fear of realising the monarchy is outdated and unnecessary.

Anniebach Mon 05-Oct-20 13:44:44

Those against a republic have been called ‘embittered old crones , little wonder they have no wish to discuss it again

Bridgeit Mon 05-Oct-20 14:15:12

Anyone believing that a Republic of England would somehow transform the country into one of complete equality would be sadly disappointed.... there is nor ever will be equality, not here, not anywhere .
Thankfully there are folks from across the range of lifestyles who do try to level the disparities, when we do something to help or change things ( no matter how insignificant it may seem ) in our own neighbourhoods it can & does make a difference be that some or just one person.

Many people who are employed within the Industry that is ‘The Royal Family’ would loose their jobs, how does that help anyone ?
I do not particularly like the word ‘Royal’ perhaps it is time the title/term ... Her /His Royal should be dropped.

maddyone Mon 05-Oct-20 14:30:49

I rather hope that some things will change whenever the Queen dies. I think she has been an obstacle to too much change. I really do feel she should hang up her crown now, but unfortunately she will never do that because she apparently believes in the divine right of Kings/Queens, in other words she was chosen by God, which is absolute poppycock in my opinion.
I don’t mind having a royal family rather than a republic but I think that a lot needs to change. A small change would be to do away with all the bowing and curtsying in my opinion. And the HRH titles should be abolished, it’s too divisive even within the royal family. If they leave as did Edward and Harry, then their titles should become Mr or Mrs, just like anyone else, and don’t even get me started on the House of Lords!

Anniebach Mon 05-Oct-20 14:35:53

The Queen made a promise when she was 21, I think she is
keeping to that promise .

Bowing and curtsying is the choice of the individual.

Sparklefizz Mon 05-Oct-20 14:37:58

The book "Finding Freedom" is now only £3.99 on eBay. grin

trisher Mon 05-Oct-20 14:48:28

Anniebach

Those against a republic have been called ‘embittered old crones , little wonder they have no wish to discuss it again

Actually my comment had nothing to do with those who are royalists or republicans it was about those who consistently slag off a woman, who as far as I can see has done very little, except marry someone and choose to live in the country she was born in, and certainly nothing which harms anyone on GN.
I like logical and reasonable argument. I dislike older women who cannot empathise with someone younger and different.

maddyone Mon 05-Oct-20 14:54:08

You’re right Annie she did make that promise and she is keeping it. I just think she should have retired and handed over to Charles a few years ago.

Anniebach Mon 05-Oct-20 15:21:18

maddy the queen would have to abdicate , only one has done so.

trisher Mon 05-Oct-20 15:32:19

Actually she wouldn't have to abdicate she could claim to be incapacitated and a regent would be appointed- Charles.

Anniebach Mon 05-Oct-20 15:53:57

George 4th was the last prince regent, his father George 3rd
was mentally ill.

trisher Mon 05-Oct-20 16:08:17

The Regency Act is regularly updated to accommodate the possibility of a monarch dying before their child reaches its majority.There are a series of them-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regency_Acts

Calendargirl Mon 05-Oct-20 16:15:49

she could claim to be incapacitated

But she’s not, is she? She is 94, but she looks to be physically and mentally well for her age.
Why should she lie?

Jaberwok Mon 05-Oct-20 16:27:00

No modern monarch believes in the divine right of kings, which meant a divine right to rule, a job which is now done by Parliament not the monach, she/he reigns. For the Queen it is as Annie said, she made a promise aged 21 that, be it long or short, she would live her life in service to this country. Queen Victoria made the same vow when she became Queen aged just 18. The last autocratic monarch was Charles 1st and look what happened to him!! Bowing and curtseying is now optional, and I think will finally disappear when William becomes King, as he is said to be uncomfortable with it!

Anniebach Mon 05-Oct-20 16:36:40

Seems her failing is not dying younger , some dislike older
women , I do not mean maddy .

trisher Mon 05-Oct-20 17:54:04

Calendargirl there are a fair number of duties she has handed over to other people. She has also had to remain seated during the Trooping of the Colour, so it could be claimed she is no longer as physically capable. I wonder why thinking someone should retire is regarded as disliking them? Most of us do it and it makes for a richer life.

varian Mon 05-Oct-20 18:11:14

Anniebach

Seems her failing is not dying younger , some dislike older
women , I do not mean maddy .

Some folk dislike older women, but that means women like you and me Annie who are not anywhere near as old as the Queen. Even if you're not royal, you could eventually become "wonderful for your age" or even a "national treasure" if you live long enough.

Anniebach Mon 05-Oct-20 18:24:27

The Queen is not a national treasure