Uh Uh Harry ?

Aaaah. You're up to speed with it all then.

Grumpy old biddies ? Very much like ‘embittered old crones’

Talking about grumpy old biddies, I wonder how many on GN complained about Matt Lucas on Bake off?

Why, what have I missed?
Did he emulate royalty?
(King Alfred)

???

Calendargirl

NotTooOld

What do ordinary Americans think of H and M? I think we should be told.

PS I think she does look like Wallis except I don't think Wallis directed that 'adoring' gaze at Edward in quite the way M does to H. It's the same gaze Nancy Reagan directed at Ronald when he was sworn in as president.

I think Nancy was another ‘power behind the throne’ also.

She was an actress also.
What a coincidence they both had the same adoring gaze.

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Calendargirl

Calendargirl

NotTooOld

What do ordinary Americans think of H and M? I think we should be told.

PS I think she does look like Wallis except I don't think Wallis directed that 'adoring' gaze at Edward in quite the way M does to H. It's the same gaze Nancy Reagan directed at Ronald when he was sworn in as president.

I think Nancy was another ‘power behind the throne’ also.

She was an actress also.
What a coincidence they both had the same adoring gaze.

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Hang on, think I’m wrong there!

His first wife was Jane Wyman, (well, one wife anyway) and she was an actress.

Sorry Nancy, but maybe Jane gave you some tips!

You were right Calendargirl Nancy Reagan was an actress under the name Nancy Davis, she did actually star in one film with Ronald Reagan in the late 50s, I think it was called Hellcats of the Navy.

I adore Matt Lucas

Went to see Little Britain on tour

Saw Bake Off for the first time because he's in it.

Hilarious. Loved his Boris skit

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8770755/JAN-MOIR-Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-taken-fools-Americas-turn.html

Good article from Jan Moir today.

I do remember Nancy Reagan at Ronald Reagan's funeral; very composed, but she stroked and patted the coffin in a sort of gentle farewell, and it struck me as being genuine, and I think it surprised the Press.

Thanks Lexisgranny, I must do better research before posting, as I don’t want to give ‘fake news’ or ‘fake gossip’ to be more accurate!

The real sadness is that Prince Harry looks so unhappy and beaten down! bit like those awful hauted pictures of IS hostages. We don't mind a Prince relocating to another country/life if it makes him happy and contented, after all we've got plenty of other Princes, but to see him parroting words clearly put into his mouth that he barely seems to understand and see his downcast demeanour compared to the Harry we once knew and loved is nothing short of tragic.

Never been a fan of Harry, but I think he looks so lost now,
a man who loved the army life, the company of men, shooting,fishing, stalking, Africa, very close to his brother.

But now ?

Jaberwok

The real sadness is that Prince Harry looks so unhappy and beaten down! bit like those awful hauted pictures of IS hostages. We don't mind a Prince relocating to another country/life if it makes him happy and contented, after all we've got plenty of other Princes, but to see him parroting words clearly put into his mouth that he barely seems to understand and see his downcast demeanour compared to the Harry we once knew and loved is nothing short of tragic.

I agree Jaberwok. Didn't Meghan say something like "it's no good just to survive, you have to thrive." She definitely is thriving, but Harry looks so unhappy like he is performing under duress. Sad to watch.

I agree Anniebach, Jaberwok and Ellianne. He does look like a hostage who has been told what to say to the camera. I think the crunch for him will come at Christmas.

Poor little Archie though .... who does he play with? Who does he see in his little life?

I don't think H is particularly unhappy. He has three expressions: grinning, vacuous and cross; the most frequent one at the moment is cross, because we don't all share his love and admiration for Meghan.

If they want to campaign on American issues that is up to them, but for a couple who created such a tremendous fuss about being private citizens, they make an awful lot of public pronouncements.

Just imagining the comments should Harry have been smiling and lauging on any of the videos. "Look at him crowing after what he's done", "It's all right grinning but it's time he took things seriously" "There's nothing to laugh about".
Can't win can they???

trisher

Just imagining the comments should Harry have been smiling and lauging on any of the videos. "Look at him crowing after what he's done", "It's all right grinning but it's time he took things seriously" "There's nothing to laugh about".
Can't win can they???

Trisher, compare him now with his delight and bounce when Archie was born. So happy and speaking from the heart.
OK, so if American politics isn't exactly his bag, why doesn't he choose his own subjects to lecture people on? I would be quite happy to see a little smile and laugh from him.

Or is he playing that victim card all over again? I think someone here suggested that earlier.

Besotted as Harry is, he knows what the protocol is on mentioning politics. He can be supportive of Meghan's opinions but should stop short of saying anything that causes problems for our Royal Family.

Meghan .manages to look totally at ease and eager to lecture us all, in fact looks extremely pleased with life as I'm sure she is! Harry? looks sad, anxious, crouched on the seat, and generally miserable! You can be serious and enthusiastic, and smile!!! Harry looks as if he's terrified of performing badly and the consequences that will follow. In other words he's frightened of MM! Domestic abuse?!!

Ellianne but isn't he simply doing what most people do? Laughing and cheerful with his baby, serious when he is talking about serious subjects?
The general view seems to be that he is desperately unhappy, but maybe he just has a serious side he is now showing.
I rarely feel sorry for any of the RF and I find this Good Royal/Bad Royal saga completely mystifying, but H&M do seem to be complete targets at the moment. I do wonder if it is to do with human nature and if you have people you worship you have to have an element amongst them you hate. It seems very similar to the Good King/Bad King concept of history.

No, they can't win because they are both insufferable and most people recognise that. I am not going to be lectured, influenced or charmed by that pair of posers. Not a big fan of DM but I think it has nailed this pair.

That's interesting. Are we British better at commiserating when the chips are down or at praising to the skies when everything is rosy? In Harry's case I feel we have exhausted both avenues.

Do people change so much, I saw Harry growing up, his love
of the countryside, I saw him in training with the army.

Do most people give up everything for their child ? Yes we adjust but a complete change of lifestyle ?

Worship ? How odd, but I suppose some worship politicians or
celebs. I definitely do not want a republic, but I don’t worship
the royals,