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Boris' 'oven ready' deal becomes 'No Deal'

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grannyactivist Fri 16-Oct-20 12:20:43

Can I ask what the GN leave voters think about this without the thread descending into vitriol please?

lemongrove Tue 20-Oct-20 09:49:55

Because you are so fixated on the negatives of leaving the EU I think it’s now impossible for you to envisage any positives.
Covid is now the main problem for the UK ( and other countries!)
How about waiting for the end of this week, the talks are still going on, we are not at the moment, leaving without making a deal.This depressive repetitive chat about how awful everything is no doubt enjoyable for some to engage in, otherwise why do it all the time? Misery loves company.

Lucca Tue 20-Oct-20 09:51:09

Oh no I was afraid that’s what you meant. Where did you go ? A long and varied tour round I trust.

Reminds me of a friend who said she didn’t like Italy based on a weeks package holiday in lido di Jesolo.....

Lucca Tue 20-Oct-20 09:51:55

Did anyone answer the OP ?

Pantglas2 Tue 20-Oct-20 09:54:30

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Lucca Tue 20-Oct-20 10:00:39

I’ll have it !!!

MaizieD Tue 20-Oct-20 11:50:55

Because you are so fixated on the negatives of leaving the EU I think it’s now impossible for you to envisage any positives.

We're still waiting to find out what the positives are, lemon. We've been asking for the last 4 years and still haven't had a convincing response.

Dinahmo Tue 20-Oct-20 15:11:22

MaizieD

^Because you are so fixated on the negatives of leaving the EU I think it’s now impossible for you to envisage any positives.^

We're still waiting to find out what the positives are, lemon. We've been asking for the last 4 years and still haven't had a convincing response.

Maizie you just beat me to it. I scrolled back to the beginning to see whether any positives had been mentioned but, as per usual, there weren't any.

Johnson mentioned the bright future that's ahead of us but without an explanation of how we get there. I guess he was setting an example to his supporters - beliefs but no firm facts.

Summerlove Tue 20-Oct-20 15:31:02

lemongrove

JenniferEccles

I tell you what- shall we all agree with the ‘we are all doooomed’ scenario to put paid to all these incredibly predictable and tediously negative threads once and for all?

?
I think it would be easier all round Jennifer as the threads are like Groundhog Day.

Similar than to those threads that love to bash Meghan Markle for daring to breathe?

Whitewavemark2 Tue 20-Oct-20 15:53:17

Cummings will have the Lords in his sights.

How very dare they!!

The House of Lords has just voted by huge majority of 226 to indicate its likely rejection of Johnson’s Internal Market Bill provisions for override the Good Friday Agreement & international law

564 peers voted: one of the largest votes in the entire history of the Lords!

Summerlove Tue 20-Oct-20 15:56:20

MaizieD

^Because you are so fixated on the negatives of leaving the EU I think it’s now impossible for you to envisage any positives.^

We're still waiting to find out what the positives are, lemon. We've been asking for the last 4 years and still haven't had a convincing response.

Apparently it’s much more interesting for them to tell us there will be positives but not what they are because we can’t see them yet.

Davidhs Tue 20-Oct-20 16:18:52

Come on Lemongrove tell us just 3 positives about Brexit.

Please.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 20-Oct-20 16:20:18

Davidhs

Come on Lemongrove tell us just 3 positives about Brexit.

Please.

That’s being ambitious.

I’d settle for one

MayBee70 Tue 20-Oct-20 16:21:28

I’m waiting.....

Lucca Tue 20-Oct-20 16:23:17

Summerlove. Good point !

Whitewavemark2 Tue 20-Oct-20 16:25:28

The joke is that they are sure that what we are saying is absolutely wrong, and they are constantly telling us so, but they are clueless about the positives.

What a load of old bunkum..

biba70 Tue 20-Oct-20 17:31:32

I do believe we can wait... for a very long time, even for just a measly little one.

vegansrock Tue 20-Oct-20 17:33:04

Well there’s blue passports and....err....
Worth all those ££££billions

varian Tue 20-Oct-20 17:35:53

And just in case some brexiter comes back to talk about the "Australian deal", let's be clear - "Australian deal" = "Outer Mongolian deal" = "no deal", so let's not have any ridiculous euphemisms to describe this national disaster and utter disgrace.

trisher Tue 20-Oct-20 17:52:54

vegansrock I thought about the passports as well, but then I wavered. I quite like the EU one!

lemongrove Tue 20-Oct-20 18:41:17

Being a truly independent nation will bring it’s own rewards,
It will take time to change/dismantle any EU laws and regulations that we don’t want and instigate our own ones.
No more eyewatering amounts of money coming from us to build marvellous roads in Poland and shore up other countries infrastructure at the expense of our own.
It’s true it will take time, but will be worth it in the end.
It’s over folks, it’s happening, no more EU for the UK and high time for all to stop the whining, moaning and general hand wringing.
Feel free to disagree of course, but accept it and move on.

Dinahmo Tue 20-Oct-20 18:47:55

What about the fabulous sums of EU money spent on the regeneration of the historic centre of Hull?

Whitewavemark2 Tue 20-Oct-20 18:59:15

But we won’t be a truly independent nation. Surely you understand that small detail!!

biba70 Tue 20-Oct-20 19:13:03

we will remind you in due course, not long too go now

''high time for all to stop the whining, moaning and general hand wringing.
Feel free to disagree of course, but accept it and move on.''

we won't be shy.

Ilovecheese Tue 20-Oct-20 19:19:51

It is impossible though surely to give concrete examples of the benefits of what was an emotional decision. To brexiters, I think, the emotional rewards are the worth the financial losses. Especially if those loses are mainly happen to other people, but even if there are personal inconveniences, I believe the brexiteers will still feel that it was worth it. They have to go on believing or they will have to look back and wonder why they did it.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 20-Oct-20 19:23:11

Ilovecheese

It is impossible though surely to give concrete examples of the benefits of what was an emotional decision. To brexiters, I think, the emotional rewards are the worth the financial losses. Especially if those loses are mainly happen to other people, but even if there are personal inconveniences, I believe the brexiteers will still feel that it was worth it. They have to go on believing or they will have to look back and wonder why they did it.

That’s exactly what the populists bank on - emotional responses.

Facts must never ever get in the way of feelings.