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Jeremy Corbyn suspended from Labour Party

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GrannyGravy13 Thu 29-Oct-20 13:35:00

According to the Guardian on line 1.08pm

A spokesman for the Labour Party said today "In light of comments made today and his failure to retract them subse, the Labour Party has suspended Jeremy. Robyn pending investigation.

He has also had the whip removed from the Parliamentary Labour Party.

This is after the release of the antisemitism report.

trisher Sun 01-Nov-20 11:44:29

Hush money? Grany

Grany Sun 01-Nov-20 11:44:37

Sorry spelt your name wrong meant trisher

Grany Sun 01-Nov-20 11:46:09

Yes must be something like that I agree trusher I don't trust him.

Grany Sun 01-Nov-20 11:49:31

I did it again sorry spelt it wrong must check before post message trisher

trisher Sun 01-Nov-20 12:03:49

I don't see how that culture could have prospered in the LP office without some MPs knowing about it Grany and I think Starmer is clever.

Iam64 Sun 01-Nov-20 12:15:44

I share the views expressed by Galaxy at 11.42 today. Corbyn has opposed every labour leader during his time as an Mp. He supported Militant when Kinnock was getting them out of the party.

Grany Sun 01-Nov-20 12:30:32

Yes Starmer is clever, devious but is he too clever

A closer look at the actual content of EHRC report suggests Corbyn has been done an injustice

Yesterday, another Labour leader, Keir Starmer, tried to copy the Kinnock and Blair masterstrokes.

And tried too hard.

He suspended former Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn, alongside whom he served as a senior member of his front bench team for several years, and in an especially sensitive post.

And for what?

Anniebach Sun 01-Nov-20 12:42:36

Corbyn didn’t just support Militant he ran a campaign to have
The expelled reinstated.

What sort of person supports Derek Hatton and Co.

And seems some Corbyn supporters here who keep on about
Brexit have no complaint about Corbyn refusing to take part
in the party leaders debate on Brexit, he went on holiday.

Iam64 Sun 01-Nov-20 13:02:27

Corbyn is not the victim here.

MaizieD Sun 01-Nov-20 13:40:14

IMO Corbyn has chosen this hill to die on. He knew exactly what Starmer was going to say and went right ahead and spoke against it. He then refused to retract that part of his statement. If the leadership had let it stand it would have significantly weakened what Starmer had just said.

I don't know what the hell he thinks he's playing at.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 01-Nov-20 13:46:54

MaizieD

IMO Corbyn has chosen this hill to die on. He knew exactly what Starmer was going to say and went right ahead and spoke against it. He then refused to retract that part of his statement. If the leadership had let it stand it would have significantly weakened what Starmer had just said.

I don't know what the hell he thinks he's playing at.

I agree 100%. Starmer gave him every chance. He contacted Corbyn the night before and undoubtedly, knowing how Starmer works was entirely forthright in what he was going to say.

lemongrove Sun 01-Nov-20 13:51:40

No retraction so far....
I really don’t think it will happen.He will choose to make a fight of it rather than say he was mistaken with choice of language.

trisher Sun 01-Nov-20 13:52:46

knowing how Starmer works was entirely forthright in what he was going to say
How anyone could say that in the face of the way he has mis-quoted Corbyn I really don't understand.
Is it "forthright" to pay off wrongdoers when many think they could have been prosecuted or at least properly investigated?

Anniebach Sun 01-Nov-20 13:58:56

Corbyn can use his favourite-

‘I was there but I don’t know if I was involved’ - wreath laying
ceremony for the terrorists who murdered the Israeli Olympic
Team

Or - ‘I didn’t look closely’ - after defending the anti Semitic wall mural which was removed because it was anti Semitic

Grany Sun 01-Nov-20 14:06:00

Reporter: Is it regrettable that Jeremy Corbyn found out from a photographer?

Video

m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=404237967404396&id=959780427477483

MaizieD Sun 01-Nov-20 14:59:21

From Starmer's Statement;

And if – after all the pain, all the grief, and all the evidence in this report, there are still those who think there’s no problem with anti-semitism in the Labour Party. That it’s all exaggerated, or a factional attack.

Then, frankly, you are part of the problem too. And you should be nowhere near the Labour Party either.

Corbyn:

the scale of the problem was also dramatically overstated for political reasons by our opponents inside and outside the party, as well as by much of the media.

As I understand it, this is what he wouldn't retract and what he was suspended for.

It seems clear to me. Perhaps someone can convince me otherwise?

Grany Sun 01-Nov-20 15:16:42

Again

Corbyn said even one anti Semite is one two many and should not be tolerated.

In the EHRC report it was said, in article 10, that you could say what Jeremy Corbyn subsequently said.

Starmer did not follow the what EHRC report said.

Anniebach Sun 01-Nov-20 15:22:44

in the party.

FactCheck verdict

Jeremy Corbyn said: “the public perception in an opinion poll last year was that a third of all Labour party members were somehow or other under suspicion of antisemitism. The reality is, it was 0.3 per cent of party members had a case against them.”

It’s not clear that Mr Corbyn can reliably claim to know what proportion of Labour members have been the subject of an antisemitism case – at least, not for the duration of his time as leader.

Labour told the EHRC that “it was not able to confirm the number of complaints made, or action taken on antisemitism complaints, until 2018 when it started to record this data”. The party has previously said that there was no “consistent or comprehensive system” in place for recording antisemitism cases before then, which means we can’t say what happened in the first two-and-a-half years of his tenure.

Iam64 Sun 01-Nov-20 15:50:33

Corbyn stating that one anti semite is one too many is just that, saying it. Splitting hairs to 'prove' that Corbyn I allowed to say what he did is simply that, splitting hairs.

Maizie D and Whitewave, I completely agree with your posts.

Grany Sun 01-Nov-20 15:52:24

That is because Ian McNichol was GS he caused a backlog by not dealing with cases he was working against the leader.

Jenny Formby took over things changed for the better.

Anniebach Sun 01-Nov-20 16:14:56

He was not telling the truth when he claimed 0,03% ?

trisher Sun 01-Nov-20 16:19:15

Interesting as well that in this report the LP is condemned for the party leader interfering in anti-semitism complaints, and placing someone from the LOTO to oversee the process. But I seem to remember a lot of publicity and the press demanding that Corbyn should take charge of the investigations. Seems you're damned if you do.....

biba70 Sun 01-Nov-20 16:27:10

As an aside, I would love to see anyone in the Conservative Party banned for Islamophobia.

Iam64 Sun 01-Nov-20 17:48:51

Start a thread on that then biba70.

Anniebach Sun 01-Nov-20 18:12:49

There is a thread on it biba70

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