How did we ever get to have such an incompetent government?

Johnson now self isolating.

Wouldn’t it be nice to have a proper government?

Blaming Johnson for having to self isolate because he talked to an MP who then tested positive is a bit harsh....even for you
whitewave?

lemongrove

Blaming Johnson for having to self isolate because he talked to an MP who then tested positive is a bit harsh....even for you
whitewave?

The two statements are not necessarily linked?

Although to be honest it is normal service I suppose.

TBH with all the lies, and more lies - excuse us if many of us are quite sceptical on this one- and believe it is the latest fridge' to escape questions from the media on the latest shananigans, and to avoid PMQ on Wednesday- and more.

biba70

TBH with all the lies, and more lies - excuse us if many of us are quite sceptical on this one- and believe it is the latest fridge' to escape questions from the media on the latest shananigans, and to avoid PMQ on Wednesday- and more.

Well who would possibly think that he would do such a convenient thing!!

Twitter - makes sense to me. I think you are right biba

The suggestion that Johnson has to isolate for Covid is quite absurd. He could be tested every day to make sure he could work as normal. If that's not being done for the Prime Minister presume that it's entirely by choice. This is just another case of treating us with contempt

Has he not already had it so unlikely to get it again?

varian

Has he not already had it so unlikely to get it again?

Antibodies decrease rapidly. It's 7 months since he had it before. Reinfections have been recorded.. often more severely than previously.

Yes, he could be likely to get it again

Johnson self isolating? Will we notice the difference? Perhaps Carrie will be running the country now.

vegansrock

Johnson self isolating? Will we notice the difference? Perhaps Carrie will be running the country now.

I can’t get past Princess nut nuts???

Once again the rule makers have failed to follow their rules.

Photos of Johnson with MP who was subsequently found to be covid positive, not social distancing or wearing a mask.

What is the matter with these people?

Don’t they dare criticise others for following their example

well, unless that was the whole point?

So he invites any old MP to meet him, for whatever reason - take photos without masks, and he happens to just test Covid Positive - and PM goes into isolation.

If you read it in Mills and Boons, you would not believe the story line, would you?

Alegrias You have highlighted one of the major problems with our democracy. There is such a high percentage of the electorate who do not bother to vote.
I get very irritated when I hear people say they don’t vote and then proceed to criticise the government. There are few excuses. It is easy to get a postal vote so, apart from getting the papers to the postbox, you don’t even have to leave the house.
I believe voting is compulsory in some countries but, there is the option to abstain. I wonder if we should be considering this?
The other side is that is, I suppose, that people will just vote for anyone without giving it any thought. I don’t know the answer but, I am sure there must be better systems.

What is it about Johnson and co that the lockdown rules don't apply. He set out the guidance clearly - work from home where possible. He is working from home. Why can't he use zoom for meetings like the rest of the population who are fortunate enough to be able to do, thus reducing the possibility of this awful virus continuing to spread.

They even have an unsocially distanced, maskless photograph taken to re-inforce their message. Do as we say not as we do. Then they'll be surprised that the old Cummings defence is used by lots of 'ordinary' folks.

indeed, and why was it necessary to meet the MP for Lichfield all of a sudden, in a pandemic and with the EU agreement on the line ...

as said, unless it was the plan all along.

I can’t get past Princess nut nuts???

I can't work out the significance of it. 'Princess' I can understand, but what the h*ll is 'nut nuts' all about? Why is it insulting? Am I being dreadfully naive?

(Just derailing a little bit here..

MaizieD

^I can’t get past Princess nut nuts???^

I can't work out the significance of it. 'Princess' I can understand, but what the h*ll is 'nut nuts' all about? Why is it insulting? Am I being dreadfully naive?

(Just derailing a little bit here..

No nor me, but I am guessing it must be a description of her character I.e. “she is nuts” or something she said that they’ve picked up on.

I may be way wrong but - my reading of it from two misogynists was Princess Nut Nuts (ie balls or testicles). It is truly offensive.

Should add 'princess' is a used as a dismissive term

Iam64

I may be way wrong but - my reading of it from two misogynists was Princess Nut Nuts (ie balls or testicles). It is truly offensive.

I'd thought of that, Iam64 but I really don't understand how it fits (unless it's her pet name for Boris...)

Without knowing what the 'nuts' are doing in this nickname I think the 'princess' bit is more insulting and offensive,

There's a lot we don't know.

I have read that Cain has briefed against Allegra Stratton that she wasn't the best at interview and that she only got the job because she's a friend of Carrie Symonds.

Also, that she wanted journalists at the new press briefings to be allowed to ask questions whereas Cain didn't want that. It's hard to know who or what to believe but I am just glad Cain and his best mate Cummings are not there anymore.

It will be interesting to see who replaces them and what difference the new advisers will make to the general incompetence that is the subject of this thread.

Twitter

“Jul 2020: UK officially opts out of EU Covid-19 vaccine scheme.

Aug 2020: EU expands vaccine scheme with a 5th company, Moderna.

Oct 2020: EU fast-tracks Moderna approval.

Nov 2020: Moderna trial shows 95% effectivess from vaccine that doesn't need special storage.

Oh, well.”

@Peston
I received no further explanation or clarification, other than that we have “bio similar potential alternatives”. It is important for the Vaccine Taskforce’s Kate Bingham and Matt Hancock to explain why they did not buy Moderna Vaccine and whether that was a mistake

There are now, thank goodness, a number of vaccines which have been developed at breakneck speed by experts and have proven to be safe and effective.

Would the brexit believers prefer to take a vaccine developed by "the man in the street" or "the average voter" or perhaps "the average reader of the Daily Express"?

After all, they were told that "the British people have had enough of experts".