How confident are you in a good deal for the UK?

Bloody depressing isn’t it?

Not all doom & gloom post Brexit.

This:

“BRITAIN will impose an outright ban on the sale of animal fur once the Brexit transition period ends, the Environment Secretary has suggested.

The passage of whale meat through British ports will also be outlawed, George Eustice said.

The UK has already begun moves to ban live animal exports, which under EU law it was unable to do”

Source:
Daily Telegraph today

Apparently Matthew Parris has admitted that Remainers harbour “guilty half-thoughts of economic disaster and a gratifying opportunity for chorusing ‘we told you so’.”

And despite spending years denying they were trying to stop Brexit itself, Peter Mandelson has casually confessed that Remainers were “trying to reverse the referendum decision rather than achieve the least damaging form of Brexit”.

We all knew this didn’t we?
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Well some of us did Urmstongran.

You believe what you will. IKNOW the damage Brexit will cause to MY country .I have no idea what planet some live on but the one I live on had a good relationship with the EU ,we were treated with respect and thats never the case in Westminster
I'm sure that any problems England had with our European friends is down to the eegits England sent there ...e.g Farage.Sooner we get our own ports reopened (closed by WM for reasons of their own) then we'll do better but exporting from here with huge queues etc wont work .As a small point of interest ..or probably not....Scotland is the ONLY nation in the "uk" that has always ,every year since records began, Exported more than we import ..so our export market is important to us

We also knew the referendum was won by using lies and racism. There a difference between wanting things to go wrong and wanting those lies (eg it was all about saving the NHS) to be exposed.

Seems you’re incorrect paddyanne ...
Scotland are further down that list.

Source: HMRC, UK Trade Info 2019:
61% of exports of goods from Wales go to the EU - this is the highest proportion of any country or region in the UK, followed by the North East at 60% and Northern Ireland at 59%.
Yorkshire and the Humber and the North West also have relatively high shares of exports to the EU.

(Scotland were 49.4% by the way).

I wish I’d left this country years ago. I had the chance to go to Canada or Australia and if it hadn’t been for my father, he was very cruel to my mother and myself and I felt I couldn’t leave her, I’d be long gone. The common market was supposedly a good idea but as my gran said, if we join, Germany along with France will take over and I actually think she was right. Father was in the forces so I’ve lived in various places some of which we were called unmentionable names for being British! It’s too late for me, 74 but I wouldn’t blame anyone for leaving this filthy place. Where I live it’s overrun with fly tipping, rats and HMOs, thank god my DGC don’t live near me!

Well, I’ve learned something today. Didn’t realise the EU were to blame for fly tipping as well. The list appears to be endless.

Urm??. Is it true that N.S has her eye on a top job within the Commission? Only asking, before you all howl with rage. If true, it would explain her obsession to stay in the EU, Orkney and Shetland, ref their fishing grounds, permitting of course.

An article in the Times today mentions that EHIC will still cover visitors who are in receipt of State Pensions and ‘frontier workers’.

Urmstongran

Seems you’re incorrect paddyanne ...
Scotland are further down that list.

Source: HMRC, UK Trade Info 2019:
61% of exports of goods from Wales go to the EU - this is the highest proportion of any country or region in the UK, followed by the North East at 60% and Northern Ireland at 59%.
Yorkshire and the Humber and the North West also have relatively high shares of exports to the EU.

Seems you are incorrect actually Urmstongran

Paddyanne spoke about trade with the entire world, not the EU which is what you have quoted. Also, it was the trade balance that was discussed, not the proportion of each nation’s goods that were exported to the EU. Trade balance is the difference between the value of goods exported and the value of goods imported.

Scotland has operated a trade surplus since records began in 1996. That means we have always exported more than we have imported. Wales has operated a trade deficit since 2013. NI has had a trade deficit in 5 of the last 21 years, up until 2017. England, of course, has always operated a trade deficit since 1996.

So, paddyanne is correct. As she usually is in matters to do with Scotland.

Source: HMRC Regional Trade Statistics

And despite spending years denying they were trying to stop Brexit itself, Peter Mandelson has casually confessed that Remainers were “trying to reverse the referendum decision rather than achieve the least damaging form of Brexit”.

We all knew this didn’t we?

Most Remainers wanted a confirmatory referendum (as was suggested by Rees Mogg before the first one..) once the terms for leaving were known.

As it is, a majority of Brits (58%) now think that leaving is a bad idea (a bit late, of course) but, hey, 52% of people who voted thought it was a good idea 4 years ago...

Wonderful news about the animal welfare proposals, Ug but how is it going to contribute to GPD and put food on our tables?

Which survey showed that "a majority of Brits (58%) now think that leaving is a bad idea" MazieD?

Maybe the same survey that said JC would win the election before last and that the referendum result would be remain smileless2012 ?

In my opinion the one thing that has emerged over the last few years is that surveys/polls are unreliable.

....pound has dropped again....still, that means it can only go back up again #alwayslookonthebrightside

Smileless2012

Which survey showed that "a majority of Brits (58%) now think that leaving is a bad idea" MazieD?

Apologies, got my figures muddled.

Latest YouGov poll in November

38% think leaving is fine
51% think leaving is a bad idea.

uk.news.yahoo.com/uk-wrong-leave-eu-yougov181909982.html

YouGov have been polling on this question regularly since the referendum

Whitewavemark2 post @ 10.09.
I don't know if she listened to the whole speech: but I did.

He said the eu will be worse off to begin with. That is because they have lost weight. The only way they can put that 'weight' back on is to expand. The only countries they can expand into are dirt poor. I know this because I've travelled in all of them. Serbia, Albania, Macedonia, Bosnia Herzegovina. They have nothing to bring to the table.
They will only drain the eu of more money, money they won't have especially after the covid bailout.

But the EU isn’t just about expanding is it. imo it’s one of the greatest peace initiatives the world has ever known.

Apologies to you paddyanne I didn’t take in you meant global trading.

And thank you Alegrias2 for taking the trouble to explain that to me!

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It must be the whiskey to Japan wot does it! Expensive stuff ... especially the malt.
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4pm.
The ‘make or break’ phone call between Boris and Ursula vdL.

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MayBee70
They failed miserably in Bosnia, though, didn't they?
Granted Bosnia isn't part of the eu but not a million miles from the border with the eu.

It’s funny isn’t it that the population of the EU is about to shrink by 65 million on January 1st which is somewhat more than the whole of the Balkan region, yet only the U.K. leave voters complain. Yes, it costs money to improve your neighbours standard of living, when it happens they will buy your products and services, that is one reason that Northern European countries help.
The other reason is having experienced centuries of conflict culminating in two World Wars and occupation buy invaders, working in the common interest is preferable to warfare. My parents told me of all the horrors of the devastation in Britain during WW2. It wasnt until I had an exchange visit as a teenager to Holland that I heard the horrors of occupation and invading armies first hand, fighting in both directions