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How confident are you in a good deal for the UK?

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Trisha57 Fri 04-Dec-20 22:48:56

Just that really. Watching the News tonight and it seems there are conflicting views, as always.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 06-Dec-20 12:20:58

Then it wasn’t from me MaizieD I only started posting mid 2017.

Dinahmo Sun 06-Dec-20 13:13:04

GrannyGravy13

Nothing mind boggling MaizieD those on here who voted remain have stated repeatedly that they voted for their children and grandchildren’s future, why shouldn’t I vote for my AC and GC’s future, just because we view the future differently doesn’t negate our motives.

I'd be very interested to learn how your AC and GCs feel about leaving now. From what I read most people are worried about their descendants' futures.

Dinahmo Sun 06-Dec-20 13:15:36

Sparkling

We are provably better no deal.than a bad deal, eating our own produce more. We cannot let our fishermen down, their job is one that none of the population would or could do with little reward. I am totally against animals bring slaughtered miles away, theircwell bring is paramount. I still remember French burning Sheep lorries, they don't give an inch, it's their way or no way. so leave them to it. We need our farmers and fishermen.

As has been said on this thread and others. we don't produce enough to feed us all. how are you gaining to make people suddenly like eating fish when 70% of the fish caught is sold to other EU countries.

David0205 Sun 06-Dec-20 13:45:17

We are all Brexit now and have to take the consequences, whatever the deal or no deal life is going to change, most of us are not going to notice much difference, especially us oldies.

Its the young that are going to hurt the most, myself, no holiday in France this year, they are too touchy. I’ve got some friends in Sicily, time to visit them, they just laugh at us.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 06-Dec-20 14:10:11

David0205

We are all Brexit now and have to take the consequences, whatever the deal or no deal life is going to change, most of us are not going to notice much difference, especially us oldies.

Its the young that are going to hurt the most, myself, no holiday in France this year, they are too touchy. I’ve got some friends in Sicily, time to visit them, they just laugh at us.

Well bully for you!

MaizieD Sun 06-Dec-20 14:22:59

most of us are not going to notice much difference, especially us oldies.

I cannot see how you come to that conclusion, David0205. The most consistent prediction is food shortages (deal or no deal) caused by transport difficulties. Don't you eat?

biba70 Sun 06-Dec-20 14:26:35

and medicines shortage, isotopes, insulin, etc - I think that will affect a lot of us oldies.

MawBe Sun 06-Dec-20 14:28:25

Surely you mean you oldies ?
Switzerland should remain unaffected -no?

petra Sun 06-Dec-20 14:40:19

biba70
How is it going to affect you, a resident of Switzerland ?

Lucretzia Sun 06-Dec-20 14:47:25

No real idea of the intricacies of all the discussion

Fishing seems to be a sticking point

So what will happen to the French fishermen if there is No deal?

NannyJan53 Sun 06-Dec-20 15:06:09

In reply to the OP. I am not confident of a good deal. We already had a good deal being in the EU

Why the UK has to put itself through all this is beyond me!

MaizieD Sun 06-Dec-20 15:10:44

Why the UK has to put itself through all this is beyond me!

We've tried for four years to get the Leave voters to explain pressing reasons why we should be descending into this hell.

All we get is 'feelz' and regurgitation of the Leave campaigns' lies (which, of course, didn't influence them in the slightest).

biba70 Sun 06-Dec-20 15:22:18

petra

biba70
How is it going to affect you, a resident of Switzerland ?

oh, no, not this old chestnut again.

We are British, living off our British pensions- which are dwindling due to tanking sterling about to tank much further.

I cannot imagine any of you happy to lose 60% and now possibly 70 to 80% of your income, through absolutely no fault of your own. And combine it with suddently having to find about £1000 a month for the two of us for healthcare, which was previously provided under EU reciprocal agreement.

seamstress Sun 06-Dec-20 15:36:24

I cant believe Leave voters are happy with how this whole shambles has run. But no doubt they'll blame the economic collapse, shortages, price rises, unemployment etc on the EU, remainers, immigrants, anything but the liars who persuaded them it would all be so marvellous and easy, and not his sh!tshow it has become. The wonderful sovereignty and taking back control ( which we already had) - so much hot air slogans/ lies along with how much money we would save by not giving it to foreigners all that money going to the NHS of course ( hollow laugh)

Whitewavemark2 Sun 06-Dec-20 15:47:18

Someone more rational and hard headed than this government

silverlining48 Sun 06-Dec-20 16:23:48

John Major has put it far better than I could.
Its a total shambles, and likely to get worse.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 06-Dec-20 16:30:03

It is unforgivable

biba70 Sun 06-Dec-20 16:33:48

they will tray and blame everyone and everything else for the debacle and the dire consequences. But we will NOT let them do that- they will have to take responsibility, fully - we will make sure they do, one way, or another.

petra Sun 06-Dec-20 16:48:40

biba70
Thousands of pensioners in this country have to live on less than your paying in health insurance.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 06-Dec-20 17:00:18

petra

biba70
Thousands of pensioners in this country have to live on less than your paying in health insurance.

Telling someone that they are better off than others seems a bit of an obvious argument?, and not sure how it fits in with the theme of the thread.

petra Sun 06-Dec-20 17:02:05

biba70
Look on the bright side. The Swiss frank is no longer pegged to the euro. And why is this: some say your banks have no faith in the longevity of the euro. They aren't alone.

petra Sun 06-Dec-20 17:04:29

Whitewavemark2
Just the same as some of your comments have no relevance to the theme of the thread.

biba70 Sun 06-Dec-20 17:05:36

YOU ASKED ME, didn't you- how it would affect us. I replied.

Would you be happy to lose 60, 65, 70, 75, 80% even of the income? (which was very comfortable, but not lavish). Would you be happy to have to plan to go back to work in your 70s to make up for it.

No- I don't think so. I did not complain- YOU asked.

biba70 Sun 06-Dec-20 17:07:05

I spent the summer on top of ladders, and lying on my side on the floor, filling, sanding, painting ...aching, back breaking- to get ready for earning a living again. Not complaining- you asked.

MaizieD Sun 06-Dec-20 17:07:41

I'm sorry, petra but in effect telling someone 'tough luck' when they have suffered from your vote is not a good look.