This is utterly shameful

We pay Mogg £89k a year for the sort of rhetoric he has spouted this week. And children continue to be hungry.

It started with austerity, and it is almost certain that Sunak intends to reintroduce austerity. The poor cannot take much more.

Many GN members used to be fans of JRM, oh he's so polite and a gentleman, and other rubbish.

Haven't heard much from them since he stabbed Theresa May in the back, when she was on the political ropes, with his snide ' shall I write a letter?' (to the 1922 committee) calling for her resignation.

He's a a piece of sneering shit, IMO.

Riverwalk

Many GN members used to be fans of JRM, oh he's so polite and a gentleman, and other rubbish.

Haven't heard much from them since he stabbed Theresa May in the back, when she was on the political ropes, with his snide ' shall I write a letter?' (to the 1922 committee) calling for her resignation.

He's a a piece of sneering shit, IMO.

???pleased to see that you haven’t held back

He also happens to be a good constituency MP. Why this vitriolic attack? This unpleasantness and lack of being able to express oneself without resorting to bad language is what puts people off of these topics on Grans Net and ultimately end in the thread being deleted.

Unpleasantness and bad language? How twee!

Was it not unpleasant for JRM to be so sneering?

And this thread will not be deleted by my use of the word shit, to describe JRM.

I was going to comment on JRM's supposed Christianity but see someone beat me to it. Camel and eye of needle springs to mind.

I agree 25Avalon Nasty, small minded sneering comments, but he is a Tory so is deemed to be fair game. Plus of course he is well educated, well spoken and has committed the ultimate sin in being wealthy.

None of you posting all this vitriol have any way of knowing how much of JRM’s income goes to supporting charities do you?

So many threads are driven by posters who seem to be seething with anger about absolutely everything connected to government ministers and of course Brexit.

Do you wonder that a lot of more reasonable people have long since given up and just let the rest of you rant and rave amongst yourselves?

I have just read that Mogg told a parliamentary select committee that he is in favour of bringing back workhouses.

JenniferEccles

I agree 25Avalon Nasty, small minded sneering comments, but he is a Tory so is deemed to be fair game. Plus of course he is well educated, well spoken and has committed the ultimate sin in being wealthy.

None of you posting all this vitriol have any way of knowing how much of JRM’s income goes to supporting charities do you?

So many threads are driven by posters who seem to be seething with anger about absolutely everything connected to government ministers and of course Brexit.

Do you wonder that a lot of more reasonable people have long since given up and just let the rest of you rant and rave amongst yourselves?

But I do know how much tax he hadn’t paid, and I suspect if Mogg ever gives to charities it is proportionally no more or less than a lot of us give.

Well educated!! My children are well educated and give a lot more to society than Mogg has ever done.

The accent is an affectation that the silly man has adopted.

There is absolutely no sin in being wealthy. The sin lies in ensuring that tax is not paid to the country that has provided him with comfort and security.

You are talking clap trap.

You accuse me of posting claptrap when you have just claimed that JRM is involved in bringing back workhouses!

Honestly WWM2 you have lost all credibility now!

I am no admirer of ReesMogg or his politics, but there are some silly attitudes here. Of course he’s well-educated. Eton and a degree in history from Trinity College, Oxford equals well-educated as far as I’m concerned. As for his accent, why shouldn’t that be natural to him, given his background?

I’ve known Rees Mogg since he was a teenager (or maybe he was 20?) so feel well qualified to confirm that he doesn’t have a clue how ordinary people live. He has lived a life of extreme privilege and has little concept of what happens outside that world.

Jacob Reece Mogg certainly proved himself to be disloyal and duplicitous in his behaviour towards Mrs May. He didn't show himself in a good light with his remarks about Grenfell Tower either.

Having such an unequal society is such a waste of people and what they can contribute to a decent society.

It is also not a good business model. So many small businesses rely on other people having that bit of spare cash to buy their product or service. Keeping people on the breadline by paying such low wages, might make huge profits for the large companies like Serco for example, but takes money away from lots of small and micro businesses, the owners of those small businesses will support other small businesses and so many people benefit.
There is nothing actually wrong with a person being rich, as long as they pay their taxes, but salting millions away, takes it out of the economy and is bad for the country as a whole.

Josh Berry nailing it as usual twitter.com/joshberrycomedy/status/1339650377138974720?s=21

JenniferEccles

You accuse me of posting claptrap when you have just claimed that JRM is involved in bringing back workhouses!

Honestly WWM2 you have lost all credibility now!

WWM didn't say that JRM is involved in bringing back workhouses, merely that he is in favour of it. A slight difference. I don't suppose anyone else takes this seriously but it is an example of his thinking which doesn't lean towards helping the poor.

Quote from Mogg

“ I fail to grasp precisely what the liberal left find so barbaric about the workhouse”

Don’t forget that his ancestors help run the Clutton Union workhouse

This could help the poor too. A guy from Australia with his opinion We Should Abolish the Monarchy I agree with him.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=y0XH0_Eccl8

and has committed the ultimate sin in being wealthy.

There is nothing wrong with being wealthy and I don't see it as being an ultimate sin.

There are many very wealthy people eg. the super rich Bill Gates, Mackenzie Scott; and the very rich JK Rowling, Paul McCartney, Marcus Rashford, etc., who don't make sneering comments about programmes to help those in need in these special times.

Different people with different attitudes.

Of JRM’s ancestors two were paid clerks when it first opened and one was chairman of the Board of Governors at the Clutton Union Workhouse operated in accordance with the Poor Law. Quite what that has to do with anything I really don’t know. There was also investment in the local coal mines around Radstock. But further back an ancestor was a lowly Welsh cleric who married into the Mogg family hence the name Rees Mogg.

Jo Maugham

I was wondering what kind of a 'Christian' you'd have to be to look at people not having food to eat and be outraged that UNICEF was feeding them. But then I remembered when Rees-Mogg said that the people who died at Grenfell died because they lacked his commonsense.

Absolute charmer, isn't he?

the Clutton Union Workhouse operated in accordance with the Poor Law.

Believe me, the 1834 Poor Law Act, which set out how workhouses and poor relief should be operated, was vicious. It separated families, gave inmates the very poorest diets they possibly could and set them to work on jobs like oakum picking and bone crushing. What is more, the overseers had no scruple in 'apprenticing' (effectively 'selling') orphaned children (and sometimes just children separated from their parents) from a very young age to factory owners where they were set to work for long hours in dangerous conditions.

I have no idea what period Rees Mogg studied for his degree, but I covered the 1834 Poor Law as part of my history degree. It wasn't good. When Dickens wrote Oliver Twist (1837) he was writing about conditions which obtained in the worst. He wasn't just an author, he was a reporter of contemporary social conditions with a view to reforming them.

How anyone could fail to be horrified by workhouses is beyond me; even if they were run 'in accordance with the law'.

Oh, and UNICEF has given £700,000, not £25,000.

twitter.com/UNICEF_uk/status/1339579425483083776

When you start looking into the £400 million the government has allocated it doesn't look quite a generous as it sounds.

There are some 4.2 million children living in poverty in the UK according to the Child Poverty Action Group. So that works out at under £100 per child. To cover food, energy bill, clothing this winter; then, to cover Easter, Summer and Christmas 2021. And some allocated to food banks. Which kind of stretches it a bit.

cpag.org.uk/child-poverty/child-poverty-facts-and-figures

www.unilad.co.uk/news/government-announces-400-million-scheme-to-feed-poor-children-after-marcus-rashford-campaign/

It's not his wealth, his accent, or his education, that I have a problem with. Its his poverty of spirit. I say this in response to his views on the vulnerable in our society. He is blind to their pain and is eager to lay blame at them.