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Is Macron grandstanding?

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kittylester Wed 23-Dec-20 12:22:32

Boris is getting the blame for the lorry hold up but should the blame be laid at the door or M Macron. Does he really think stopping lorry drivers coming from the UK will keep the French free of the new virus or is he hoping to boost his ratings?

LadyGracie Thu 24-Dec-20 09:35:45

Macron has definitely shot himself in the foot, being egged on these last few months by the one and only Tony Blair.

Ellianne Thu 24-Dec-20 10:00:34

vegansrock

I think haters just like to bash “the French” and ignore all the other countries that have imposed a travel ban.

I think that has more to do with geography vegansrock. I know there are a few other entry countries by sea to mainland Europe, but England to France and vice versa is the link.

Dinahmo Thu 24-Dec-20 10:38:25

LadyGracie

Macron has definitely shot himself in the foot, being egged on these last few months by the one and only Tony Blair.

Explain please. I don't understand your comment.

Mamie Thu 24-Dec-20 11:02:23

Good to see the French Fire Brigade taking 10,000 tests to Dover and working alongside British colleagues to administer them this morning.

vegansrock Thu 24-Dec-20 11:12:53

Elianne so just because France is closer means they shouldn't control their borders? I thought that’s what the Brexit fans wanted? Also, there are ferries from the U.K. to The Netherlands, Belgium, Spain, and Norway. Are all these other countries not entitled to try to protect their citizens? Maybe if the U.K. had closed its borders or insisted on testing travellers back in March we wouldn’t have such high figures.

GillT57 Thu 24-Dec-20 12:04:40

Seeing as Brexit supporters keep insisting that one of their reasons for voting for this mess was to due with 'sovereignty' why on earth are they so upset when France exercise their right to sovereignty? Is it perhaps because they have just realised that we had these rights all along?

Smileless2012 Thu 24-Dec-20 14:05:33

Yes that is good to see Mamie.

Summerlove Thu 24-Dec-20 15:22:17

GillT57

Seeing as Brexit supporters keep insisting that one of their reasons for voting for this mess was to due with 'sovereignty' why on earth are they so upset when France exercise their right to sovereignty? Is it perhaps because they have just realised that we had these rights all along?

Maybe it because now it makes them look bad to the world.

varian Thu 24-Dec-20 17:26:38

Without this utterly soul destroying brexit nonsense, we might have had a government able to concentrate properly on addressing the pandemic.

Nezumi65 Thu 24-Dec-20 19:24:28

varian

Without this utterly soul destroying brexit nonsense, we might have had a government able to concentrate properly on addressing the pandemic.

That might be optimistic with Johnson is charge grin May have had a better chance of a decent cabinet I guess.

lemongrove Thu 24-Dec-20 21:43:43

Whitewavemark2

I expect too that Macron is also aware of our crap testing system.

He is showing up every inadequate thing in the U.K.

Because he can.

Because everything is France is so much better eh?
What a laugh!
He is grandstanding and petulant ( bet he’s not happy with the fishing quotas either.)

lemongrove Thu 24-Dec-20 21:46:39

There has been so much moaning about Brexit and the chance of a no deal scenario, and now that we have secured a trade deal am guessing that there will be just as much moaning (and sour grapes.)

Nezumi65 Thu 24-Dec-20 22:16:32

Of course a deal is better than complete chaos.

Still haven’t been told what will be better than before though.

I can think of a lot that will be worse.

biba70 Fri 25-Dec-20 12:22:48

Well yes, this thin, barely a Deal, Deal - is better than none, that is for sure.

But the best Deal we ever had, we willfully chucked it in a fit of (for some, jingoïstic) nationalism. Which still does, and always will, feel like a massive act of self-harm, for what ???

paddyanne Fri 25-Dec-20 15:38:47

Blue Passports ..lol

biba70 Fri 25-Dec-20 16:47:51

Sour grapes will be when the grapes can't come, or have gone mouldy and sour on the long long journey.