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New EU Treaty - a good deal or not?

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vegansrock Thu 24-Dec-20 07:15:10

I thought this deserved its own thread. This deal is about to be announced and I’ve just heard Farage on the radio claiming it will be sellout. Trying to stir the pot already. Just wondered how it will be spun. There will be a lot of relieved businesses and relief that there is no deal at least.

Urmstongran Wed 30-Dec-20 21:05:42

I don’t hate anyone Galaxy. Truly not.
When have I ever intimated so? To anyone?
Hate is a horrible word.

No, tonight might seem silly or simplistic to many who didn’t vote the way some of us did.

But I would just like to encourage a little joy and exultation on what is, for many a new beginning! For those who are feeling as I am tonight. It’s been a long time coming!
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varian Wed 30-Dec-20 21:14:50

Only 17% think Johnson's deal is good for our country

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-brexit-deal-public-approval-b1780300.html

Bodach Wed 30-Dec-20 21:18:41

"I take it you’re with us Bodach?
Good woman!"

I certainly am, Urmstongran - on the matter of Brexit. It's a pleasure and an honour to join you in celebrating today's events. Your unalloyed happiness and optimism shine out amongst a 'muttering' of miserable remainist/rejoinist commentators on GN this evening.

On the matter of my being a "Good Woman", however, may I refer you to my (Gaelic) username?

Nezumi65 Wed 30-Dec-20 21:21:49

Not muttering at all.

Will celebrate very happily when the Irish passports arrive for the offspring.

Lucretzia Wed 30-Dec-20 21:21:50

17% of 8000 people

Good news from Aldi though.

uk.reuters.com/article/uk-aldi-uk-suppliers/aldi-to-spend-additional-3-5-billion-pounds-on-food-and-drink-from-british-suppliers-idUKKBN29428R

vegansrock Wed 30-Dec-20 21:25:45

It s great to see joy and happiness in removing freedoms from your fellow citizens on a day when 1000 have died of C19.

Galaxy Wed 30-Dec-20 21:30:15

You said stop the hating. Holding a different opinion to you isnt hating.

Lucretzia Wed 30-Dec-20 21:32:21

I think that the word hating has taken on a new meaning

Haters gonna hate etc etc

Not to be taken literally.

Galaxy Wed 30-Dec-20 21:36:00

grin

Urmstongran Wed 30-Dec-20 21:39:34

I apologise unreservedly Galaxy it was a bad choice of word there. I can understand you calling me out on it.

But it was more how Lucretzia explained it. Brexit WAS so divisive.

It just feels F A N T A S T I C to have moved on ‼️

Galaxy Wed 30-Dec-20 21:45:11

Thats ok, but dont you think dividing into teams is divisive. And also I know it wasnt you but could people get some new jokes. Surely there must be an alternative to remoaner by now

Bodach Wed 30-Dec-20 21:53:28

"It s great to see joy and happiness in removing freedoms from your fellow citizens on a day when 1000 have died of C19".
Dear vegansrock: What has Brexit got to do with Covid mortality figures? Do I detect a touch of glass-half-empty in your irony? Go on: give us a break, and allow us to bask in seeing Brexit finally over the line. Channelling my inner Sir Toby Belch, I put it to you, "Dust thou think, because thou art virtuous, there shall be no more cakes and ale?"

GrannyGravy13 Wed 30-Dec-20 21:55:29

There are not teams as such because we are all going forward together. We may disagree on some things but the arguments of the last four and a half years are finally over.
Onwards and upwards ??

CatCrone Wed 30-Dec-20 21:57:45

I would be most interested to hear the views of those who are joyfully celebrating on the following. In 2019, the service industries accounted for 80% of total UK economic output. Services accounted for 82% of employment in July-September 2020.
We do NOT have a deal covering these areas.

Urmstongran Wed 30-Dec-20 22:25:08

I agree with you there Galaxy I can honestly say, hand on heart that I have never called anyone a Remoaner. I think it is an awful slur.

Changing tack
Well said Bodach. Hear, hear.
varian please stop this. Brexit & Covid are apples and pears.

Urmstongran Wed 30-Dec-20 22:25:53

Oops.
vegansrock
Not varian
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Apologies!

Jaberwok Wed 30-Dec-20 22:29:27

Of course the covid deaths are a tragedy, but being the first to roll out the vaccines is surely a triumph? Well it is for some of us.

JenniferEccles Wed 30-Dec-20 22:43:19

I am another one who is in your happy band Urmstongran !

I voted to leave and I haven’t wavered from that for a minute, and in fact the longer this tortuous business has dragged on, thwarted at every turn by those here and in the EU, the stronger has been my conviction that we are doing the right thing.

Right from the start I had a feeling we would be in for a tough time extricating ourselves from the EU’s tentacles, but here we are, poised ready to leave and I couldn’t be more delighted ?!

Dinahmo Wed 30-Dec-20 22:55:11

JenniferEccles Let's hope that you don't fall flat on your face.

Urmstongran Wed 30-Dec-20 23:05:58

Great to have you join us JenniferEccles!
Lovely to have you join the band of merry makers tonight.
Take a recommend yourself for holding the faith in democracy - even in the darkest days!
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Just think ...
Bye bye to:

Gina Millar
Alistair Campbell
John Major
Bob Geldof
Anna Soubry
Lord Adonis
David Gauke
Chukka Umunna (?sp)
Jo Swinson (such an own goal there! Arrogant nonsense)
Tony Blair
Dianne Abbott
Jeremy Corbyn
Hugh Grant
Gary Lineker
Ian Blackford
Yvette Cooper

to name a few we won’t have to listen to anymore.
Now that alone is worth a round of drinks.!
Cheers!
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Galaxy Wed 30-Dec-20 23:11:06

What on earth are you talking about. Those people will still have opinions and you didnt have to listen to them anyway. A lot of them have made considerable contributions certainly more so than farage, tedious Wetherspoons bloke etc.

Urmstongran Wed 30-Dec-20 23:15:20

Oh I know some won’t be going away Galaxy and of course they’re entitled to their opinions. But I shall be able to ignore them now - because we are OUT! With a deal too.
Yay!
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Galaxy Wed 30-Dec-20 23:17:35

You could always ignore them. The deal makes no difference to that.

Nezumi65 Wed 30-Dec-20 23:57:00

Lord Adonis was on TV a few hours ago saying a lot of sensible things.

MayBee70 Thu 31-Dec-20 00:00:14

And we can listen to Mark Francoise, Peter Bone, Cash Redwood, Rees Mogg et al instead, Oh joy.....