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New EU Treaty - a good deal or not?

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vegansrock Thu 24-Dec-20 07:15:10

I thought this deserved its own thread. This deal is about to be announced and I’ve just heard Farage on the radio claiming it will be sellout. Trying to stir the pot already. Just wondered how it will be spun. There will be a lot of relieved businesses and relief that there is no deal at least.

Lucca Thu 24-Dec-20 17:49:29

Good piece.

MamaCaz Thu 24-Dec-20 17:48:28

Firecracker123

If Nigel Farage thinks it OK its good enough for me.

Well done Boris ??

Please yourself, but some of us prefer to think for ourselves and draw our own conclusions baeed on data and opinions from a wide, balanced range of sources.

Lucca Thu 24-Dec-20 17:48:19

Firecracker123

If Nigel Farage thinks it OK its good enough for me.

Well done Boris ??

Explai. “well done Boris” ???

Nezumi65 Thu 24-Dec-20 17:45:24

Lucretzia

Great news

It's a relief to have an end to the endless media and comment we've had for the last 4 years

You’re joking aren’t you? There’s years and years of wrangling now. For starters it doesn’t cover services - so the City is not sorted. This is just the start.

Kandinsky Thu 24-Dec-20 17:36:53

Brilliant end to an awful year.

Here’s to our new future ??

Fennel Thu 24-Dec-20 17:33:55

A current view from France:
www.france24.com/en/live

Galaxy Thu 24-Dec-20 17:25:47

Never laugh at inadequate men, look at the damage they can do.

Firecracker123 Thu 24-Dec-20 17:18:30

If Nigel Farage thinks it OK its good enough for me.

Well done Boris ??

Lucretzia Thu 24-Dec-20 17:17:46

Great news

It's a relief to have an end to the endless media and comment we've had for the last 4 years

TwoWolves Thu 24-Dec-20 17:05:39

On 5th Dec Framilode wrote on another thread: "I think this is just theatrics agreed between the two sides. They will both compromise and Johnson will be presented as the PM who saved the day and prevented us from the disaster of no deal. In reality he will have climbed down. We'll see."

I thought then that she was probably right. And it looks as though she was.

It's great that a deal has been done, even though a bit of climbing down has been likely been done. They really did string it out though, didn't they?

NfkDumpling Thu 24-Dec-20 17:03:49

vegansrock

A good deal is one that both parties are happy with, or both sides can claim as a victory. Let’s keep fingers crossed.

Exactly. (This agreeing with you is getting to be a habit. I'm worried.)

The extremes on all sides will criticise, but its a deal and hopefully it'll go through without a hitch.

Nezumi65 Thu 24-Dec-20 17:00:21

Jane10

I was surprised re Erasmus but there's nothing stopping students and universities arranging exchanges if they want to it just won't be under that particular scheme.
DSiL studied at a Spanish University back in the 50s. It's possible.

Why on earth would be want to go back to the 50’s when hardly anyone went to university, let alone on exchanges.

Will see what the replacement brings.

A sad day as far as I’m concerned but hopefully it means the anti-European rhetoric can stop and the Billy Britain flag waving can be toned down. (Wishful thinking I know).

I suspect Scotland & Northern Ireland will be off soon. I just hope Northern Ireland goes peacefully (which will be almost impossible but I still hope for that).

GrannyGravy13 Thu 24-Dec-20 16:44:24

PM has announced Turing Scheme which will replace Erasmus, it will fund British Students to study around the world.

AmberSpyglass Thu 24-Dec-20 16:34:49

I’m really not convinced it will be smooth sailing from here, but it’s a relief that it won’t be that bad. Personally, I’m just waiting for Scottish independence and our re-entry into the EU.

sodapop Thu 24-Dec-20 16:28:10

I'm just relieved that the chaos a No Deal would have caused has been largely avoided. Of course it's not what we wanted but at least we can move on now.

Chestnut Thu 24-Dec-20 16:26:52

Great images urmstongran and trueblue22. My sentiments exactly.

Here's my contribution on this happy day. Well done Boris!

rosie1959 Thu 24-Dec-20 16:24:56

What ever deal he had struck would not be good enough for some
But Boris has had to deal with more than any pm since Churchill
Well done now let’s get on with beating this ruddy virus

Galaxy Thu 24-Dec-20 16:22:23

Just so sad.

Nanof3 Thu 24-Dec-20 16:19:41

The best Christmas present, the EU bullies finally realised they were not going to win. Well done Boris and the team!

Welshwife Thu 24-Dec-20 16:16:40

It may well have something to do with fees paid etc and of course it became an easy thing to choose to do.

Nightsky2 Thu 24-Dec-20 16:16:06

Yippee, ??.

MayBee70 Thu 24-Dec-20 16:15:34

Welshwife

I am just so sad that Britain has not agreed to continue taking part in the Erasmus scheme - are they afraid students going to live and study in another country will open their eyes too much?

Me too. What reason have they given for it? Did anyone notice that Johnson said we would not be tied by constraints of conservation regarding fishing? I found that rather worrying. And that we’ll have lots of fish to eat albeit being the sort of fish that only Europeans like.

Jane10 Thu 24-Dec-20 16:13:52

I was surprised re Erasmus but there's nothing stopping students and universities arranging exchanges if they want to it just won't be under that particular scheme.
DSiL studied at a Spanish University back in the 50s. It's possible.

Galaxy Thu 24-Dec-20 16:13:15

Yes the erasmus scheme is such a loss.

Callistemon Thu 24-Dec-20 16:08:48

Are we there yet?

Perhaps we should turn on the news.