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New EU Treaty - a good deal or not?

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vegansrock Thu 24-Dec-20 07:15:10

I thought this deserved its own thread. This deal is about to be announced and I’ve just heard Farage on the radio claiming it will be sellout. Trying to stir the pot already. Just wondered how it will be spun. There will be a lot of relieved businesses and relief that there is no deal at least.

Callistemon Sat 02-Jan-21 20:03:40

What on earth are you on about?
This:
And I suppose I should have known that you would nit pick. It was perfectly obvious what he was referring to.

Carry on as you were.
There is nothing we can do.

varian Sat 02-Jan-21 20:57:47

Happy New Year?

mobile.twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1344748669757747204?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

MaizieD Sat 02-Jan-21 21:03:29

Callistemon

^What on earth are you on about?^
This:
And I suppose I should have known that you would nit pick. It was perfectly obvious what he was referring to.

Carry on as you were.
There is nothing we can do.

I still don't have a clue as to what's going through your mind.

Callistemon Sat 02-Jan-21 21:05:34

I thought as much.

biba70 Mon 04-Jan-21 10:00:35

The big question here is, why has the ERG rolled over and accepted this Deal. The sort of Deal they always said they would never ever accepted, not in a month of Sundays with Blue Moons- NEVER.

WHY ?

www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/30/boris-johnson-brexit-vote-tories-bad-deal

It seems there is only one possible answer, is that was the only way to avoid the EU Tax Directive that would have attacked their own personal wealth and tax evasion.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 04-Jan-21 10:26:43

HMG have apparently lost their marbles

Welshwife Mon 04-Jan-21 10:42:16

I could not properly read the piece WW but assume it is from one of the companies no longer selling to U.K. or from U.K. to the EU. I have seen a number of people reporting that companies they have used for a long time are no longer willing to send items due to the regulations the U.K. govt now requires them to comply with.
I think Marks are no longer sending to EU and I noticed towards the end of last year that I could not order anything from Next to be sent to a grand daughter - in the U.K. and on the U.K. site - to do with address on my bank card!

biba70 Mon 04-Jan-21 10:58:22

My question however, is about the ERG - how and why did they suddenly roll over and say oh OK, this Bad Deal is better than No Deal- which is what they have been fighting for all along and were adamant, 100%, they would never accept any Deal that would not give totaly independence and freedom from EU regs? Why?

MayBee70 Mon 04-Jan-21 11:00:54

I think they’re still free from EU tax evasion scrutiny which was important to them.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 04-Jan-21 11:02:27

If you tap on the print it enlarges, and can be read.

biba70 Mon 04-Jan-21 11:04:44

ah MayBee - you might have put your finger on it, right there ;)

Urmstongran Mon 04-Jan-21 11:35:31

Eurosceptics have long insisted that any Brexit deal must pass "the Bill Cash test" before they can back it – and with good reason....
?

Welshwife Mon 04-Jan-21 11:55:44

I tried that WW but the print was then too blurred.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 04-Jan-21 11:57:31

Urmstongran

Eurosceptics have long insisted that any Brexit deal must pass "the Bill Cash test" before they can back it – and with good reason....
?

What, like this really bit if useful information??

In early December last year the country was in paralysis. Now
@BorisJohnson
has got #Brexit done, as promised in the General Election. This agreement reaffirms the #sovereignty of the United Kingdom.

Cash.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 04-Jan-21 11:57:59

Welshwife

I tried that WW but the print was then too blurred.

I’ll try something else.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 04-Jan-21 12:00:36

I can’t work out how to enlarge it. Any ideas?

MayBee70 Mon 04-Jan-21 12:01:03

Bill Cash is so amazingly inspiring. His speeches in parliament are legendary.....

MaizieD Mon 04-Jan-21 12:12:18

Whitewavemark2

I can’t work out how to enlarge it. Any ideas?

Link to the original?

It's really easy, just copy and paste the URL into your post.

Or tell us where you found it?

Lucca Mon 04-Jan-21 12:14:06

It works fine for me, on iPad though

biba70 Mon 04-Jan-21 17:09:20

So financial services departing today- that was quick.

uk.reuters.com/.../uk-britain-eu-markets...

varian Mon 04-Jan-21 20:33:08

London’s financial sector started to feel the full effects of Brexit on the first trading day of 2021 as nearly €6bn of EU share dealing shifted away from the City to facilities in European capitals.

Financial Times

Whitewavemark2 Tue 05-Jan-21 09:17:23

Yep - It looks like the Madrid, Frankfurt and Paris stock exchanges have taken back control of share trading from London!

David0205 Tue 05-Jan-21 10:38:15

Whitewavemark2

Yep - It looks like the Madrid, Frankfurt and Paris stock exchanges have taken back control of share trading from London!

No surprises there, the currency traders are not impressed either, after brief optimism over the break its back to bouncing along the bottom at 1.09.
Partly Covid related I’m sure but nothing positive

biba70 Thu 07-Jan-21 10:21:52

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/nov/24/brexit-capitalism

paddyanne Thu 07-Jan-21 10:36:33

Seafood producers in Scotland saying their businesses no longer viable because of a three day delay in getting their very expensive produce out of the UK.No one wants a three day old Langoustine or lobster ...even a Scottish one.This is a prime product and it looks like its finished .