Germany & Cyprus break ranks from EU vaccine rollout!

She does admittedly wear jackets which are a bit too short to put her hands in her pockets!
I'm probably reading too much into the pictures, I even thought she was doing that love heart shape in one photo!

I have lived in Germany all the time she's been Chancellor and I've never seen or heard her referred to as "Mutti" here.

I can't see the word "mutti" on there. Aren't her hands just in a relaxed position - I think she often stands like that doesn't she? That's why I love pockets - somewhere to put your hands but probably not a good look in her case.

No real idea. Sorry.

Yes, I understand your explanation Pippa.
What I am puzzled by is why the CDU played on this Mutti label in their advertising campaigns. Especially in the way Merkel's hands are positioned?

GillT57

^like someone in this country suggesting Margaret Thatcher's cabinet called themselves "the vegetables"^

That was a scene from the original Spitting Image. Mrs Thatcher and cabinet sitting at table

M Thatcher to waitress; " I will have the beef"
Waitress to M Thatcher: " and the vegetables?"
M Thatcher to Waitress: " they will have the same"

Dear oh dear. Did you actually read the post? I was comparing the fact that calling AM "mutti" came from a satirical German programme, just as the cabinet were called "the vegetables" on an English satirical programme.

I always thought I was an over-explainer. Now I am thinking I don't explain enough

MawBe

^Mutti was, I believe, a term used in German satirical programme. Your "angle" would be like someone in this country suggesting Margaret Thatcher's cabinet called themselves "the vegetables^



Mutti just means “Mum”

I know. I called my mother that from time to time throughout my early years, born and living in Germany. I didn't think an explanation was needed. Sorry.

like someone in this country suggesting Margaret Thatcher's cabinet called themselves "the vegetables"

That was a scene from the original Spitting Image. Mrs Thatcher and cabinet sitting at table

M Thatcher to waitress; " I will have the beef"
Waitress to M Thatcher: " and the vegetables?"
M Thatcher to Waitress: " they will have the same"

Where did the Mutti label come from? Was it her own party? It sort of implies a nurturing, or safe pair of hands.
And what about, nanny state"? Is that to do with grandmas or goats?

Mutti was, I believe, a term used in German satirical programme. Your "angle" would be like someone in this country suggesting Margaret Thatcher's cabinet called themselves "the vegetables



Mutti just means “Mum”

The EU member states voluntarily opted into the joint procurement scheme.

Yes because they had no choice.
Germany stopped exporting PPE to other countries, (in a bid to keep control for themselves) a while back, which left countries like Italy (you may remember were the worst affected) without recourse.
In the wake of the shock and fury of the other states, A. Merkel
quickly handed over authority for vaccine roll out to Brussels.
It was in this context and against a background of mistrust that the states settled for this arrangement.

Which is far from helpful as it is proving to be a chaotic nightmare to sort out.

There are always different ways to approach a problem, not all are successful.

So imv not a 'bent banana' story.

lemongrove

I have seen the video with Sturgeon saying that she sees her responsibilities as being ‘Chief Parent....or as we say around here Chief Mammy’ ....these were her own words btw.

Those aren't her words though, are they Lemon?

In Scotland we have the concept of a Corporate Parent. I don't know much about it and maybe its something other countries have as well. The Scottish Government is a Corporate Parent. NS is head of the Government. In a speech she referred to herself as the Chief Corporate Parent, then made a joke to the Scottish audience about being called the Chief Mammy.

Some people didn't really understand and just can't get over it.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeoNCP98ASI

Gosh this is being squeezed isn't it. What sad human beings some people are becoming where they still have to attack all and sundry who dare not to acknowledge that a wonderful place in history awaits leave voters.

Mutti was, I believe, a term used in German satirical programme. Your "angle" would be like someone in this country suggesting Margaret Thatcher's cabinet called themselves "the vegetables" It is used by the media rather than the people and she does not refer to herself in that way.

This thread is a fake news thread in an attempt to hang on to what was a fake creation in the first place.

I will repeat what is only two posts above this. She has said she will not seek another term as Chancellor.

It may not suit the purpose of some on here but let's stick to the truth where it is not only known but is right in front of posters. Twisting facts is surely just for Trump and Johnson?

I have seen the video with Sturgeon saying that she sees her responsibilities as being ‘Chief Parent....or as we say around here Chief Mammy’ ....these were her own words btw.

Lemongrove Sturgeon did not want to be called the chief mammy,I explianed how that came about to you before.Keep spreading lies though if it suits you better.The care experienced children that Nicoa Sturgeon keeps an aye on call her the chief mammy..its an affetionate nickname from young peole who appreciate what she does for them.
I suppose the concept of young people being happy in teh company of the FM is alien to you...you can bet they'd run a mile form most tories!1

Elliane I find this Mutti thing a bit worrying ( and how self styled is it?) Rather like Sturgeon wanting to be called Chief Mammy.
How would everyone feel about a male leader wanted to be called Father?! Or Uncle.I think we have had those dictators in the 20th century and don’t want them back again.
Not even ‘benign’ dictatorship.

? Lemon

Alegrias1

lemongrove

Which is likely to be soon I think Paddy

The fact that she's not going to stand again is probably more relevant Lemon

Which is what I meant, she has said for quite a while now that she won’t stand again.However...politicians do change their minds.

I agree Merkel verges on being a dictator but is that necessarily a bad thing? Can we not have dictators who seek to improve their own country's standard of living and bring about economic growth, even if that means looking after their own interests?
Within the context of the current EU this probably doesn't sit well, but in my opinion it is an indication of things to come.
She may be referred to as Mutti but isn't that part of what mother's do, look out for their own child and make decisions accordingly?

lemongrove

Which is likely to be soon I think Paddy

The fact that she's not going to stand again is probably more relevant Lemon

Lucretzia

What about the poorer countries of the EU?

Exactly! They’ll be lucky to get what they’re given I imagine.

Which is likely to be soon I think Paddy

She was democratically voted into office...she'll go when her country decides and no one else.

maddyone

Bluebelle I totally respect your opinion, I just don’t share it, I wasn’t even comparing our government which is a completely different subject and not relevant in this discussion. I wasn’t even a leaver, I voted remain but nonetheless that’s no longer relevant because we’ve left. As I saw it, this discussion is purely about Angela Merkel and I don’t like her style of leadership. That’s okay because she’s not my leader. She was brought up partly in Eastern Germany under communism and I think it comes over in her style of leadership. She’s been leader for many years too, I think it could be thirteen and she shows no signs of leaving which makes me think she’s a bit of a dictator. She absolutely has not done everything right by a very long chalk. 2015 was the worst year when she unilaterally invited a million people to go to Germany and then wanted every other country to take a share of people. Where was the consultation about that? That is the action of a dictator in my opinion. Germany needs new blood in my opinion. She’s had her day and should retire in my opinion. Anyway it doesn’t matter, she’s not my leader. If you want to discuss our government that’s fine, and all it’s done in this pandemic, rightly or wrongly. But I think Merkel has had her day and should retire. My opinion only.

"She’s had her day and should retire in my opinion."

In October 2018, Merkel announced that she would stand down as Leader of the CDU at the party convention, and would not seek a fifth term as Chancellor in 2021.

Well,I actually agree Alegrias but there are worrying signs.