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Duke of Edinburgh admitted to hospital.

(263 Posts)
merlotgran Wed 17-Feb-21 14:29:12

Last night after feeling unwell.

Fingers crossed for him.

Pantglas2 Fri 19-Feb-21 18:03:54

Selective compassion......like some folks only believe in ‘the deserving poor’.

Alegrias1 Fri 19-Feb-21 18:58:32

Are the posters with republican leanings against anyone born into a moneyed family or those who inherit from relatives?

I don't think anybody should get better medical care than anyone else just because they happen to be well off, whether they made it themselves or inherited it. They shouldn't be entitled to better education either. If they want to drive in a carriage, live in a big house and give their money to charity, I've no problems with that at all.

LauraNorder Fri 19-Feb-21 19:10:56

All people are born equal, some are just more equal than others.
So true.
I happen to admire the Queen and have always been a monarchist but am increasingly swayed towards a republic.
I think the monarchy has run its course and we are ready for change.
I do wish Prince Philip well, as I would any person who is unwell.

Anniebach Fri 19-Feb-21 19:13:11

What of people who have treatment from BUPA ? I couldn’t afford it so should not feel sorry for anyone ill and paying to have health care I couldn’t afford , money doesn’t come into it
for me.

Hetty58 Fri 19-Feb-21 19:25:17

I'm not for or against monarchy - although I do tend to think they're outdated.

However, I wish anyone in hospital a speedy recovery and return home. It's a national disgrace that so many can't go home and are put into 'care' homes (oap prisons) instead, though.

Of course, that's not directly the fault of the privileged. People get what they vote for.

Aveline Fri 19-Feb-21 19:56:51

I don't mind how much money people have as long as they pay their taxes in full. If they create employment so much the better. Interfering with blameless others' liberty is something else.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 19-Feb-21 20:00:16

Those who pay for private health care free up NHS resources.

DIL’s paid for single rooms after delivering their babies in NHS hospital going towards NHS coffers

Aveline Fri 19-Feb-21 20:00:37

My previous post included reference to the situation with poor Princess Latifa. Conflated two threads. Sorry.

Alegrias1 Fri 19-Feb-21 20:49:10

GrannyGravy13

Those who pay for private health care free up NHS resources.

DIL’s paid for single rooms after delivering their babies in NHS hospital going towards NHS coffers

Sorry to be rude GG13 but that's one of the most ridiculous justifications for private healthcare I've ever heard. Are we meant to be grateful that those with enough money aren't using up the services we're all entitled to? That's how you end up with a two tier system where the better off are looked after in lovely surroundings with doctors on call all the time and the rest of us have to just make do with what's left.
Nothing anyone can say will ever change my mind on this. If someone needs to be in hospital, they should get the hospital treatment they need. Not think they have to pay for it.
And it's not jealousy, before anyone starts down that path. I can well afford BUPA but don't have it because I think it's immoral.
Guess I'm just a republican, lefty old radical.

Kalu Fri 19-Feb-21 20:52:13

I am not a royalist but I do feel for any couple, regardless of their circumstances, who have now reached a stage in their lives together, now having to face the clock is ticking towards time running out. No amount of wealth compensates for heartache.

Neither am I blind to the fact the DofE has had every comfort in life some people can only dream of. Such comforts which would possibly have prolonged their lives. These are the facts which positively sicken me when I see squandered wealth/lack of funds, cut backs which could and should be used to support the NHS/Care Homes whose main objective is to care for patients. These are the people who will be there to take care of us.

Anniebach Fri 19-Feb-21 20:59:04

Did Phillip have every comfort in life ? , father a philanderer,
mother was schizophrenic, diagnosed when Phillip was 9. He was moved around family members homes.

No, not every comfort in life unless yet again wealth can wipe
all emotions even for a child.

Kalu Fri 19-Feb-21 21:09:21

Anniebach the DofE was not the only child to have an horrendous childhood. He was though, possibly classed, as one of the lucky ones compared to thousands who had no comfort or a feeling of being loved, given the opportunity of therapy with the best money could buy, thus enabling him to deal with his formative years and take up a position in which he was very fortunate indeed to have every comfort in life.

Anniebach Fri 19-Feb-21 21:14:55

Again money buys everything

Kalu Fri 19-Feb-21 21:26:51

Well, money certainly talks and comes in very handy whenever one has the need to buy something.

Anniebach Fri 19-Feb-21 21:29:45

Money does not ease emotional pain, I just don’t understand why many think it does

Galaxy Fri 19-Feb-21 21:31:52

No but being poor and in emotional pain is harder than being rich in emotional pain.

Anniebach Fri 19-Feb-21 21:34:40

So money eases bereavement, an unfaithful partner, so not true

Galaxy Fri 19-Feb-21 21:38:16

Did you read what I said.

Anniebach Fri 19-Feb-21 21:39:38

If money eases emotional pain why is Harry so troubled , why did Katherine Kent suffered a breakdown after the loss of two
babies and continue to suffer depression

Anniebach Fri 19-Feb-21 21:40:59

Yes I did read what you said Galaxy , I cannot agree with you,

NellG Fri 19-Feb-21 21:45:31

Oh yes, I can absolutely vouch for the fact that a new car and a fillet steak totally obliterated the grief over my son's death - made it SO much more comfortable being able to sit and grieve on a quality sofa... Having money made emotional pain a walk in the park.

Sheesh!

Kalu Fri 19-Feb-21 21:48:17

As neither you nor I personally know those people you have asked about Annie, we will never know the answers.

Anniebach Fri 19-Feb-21 21:52:00

Agree Kalu , the same should be said to those who say Phillip had a comfortable childhood without parents because
he was taken in by wealthy families

Anniebach Fri 19-Feb-21 21:53:55

NellG, I so understand, nothing can ease my grief for my
darling daughter, nothing

Kalu Fri 19-Feb-21 21:55:33

I would never say money eases emotional pain as from personal and others’ experience, I know all the money in the world means nothing compared to heartache.

NellG. ?