Monday - will you watch....and why?

I wonder what their objective was in trashing the firm to a massive audience? Seems pointless or is it about trying to
punish or destroy the RF do you think? Or trying to gain sympathy but to what end? Or just for publicity? Seems to me the couple have shot themself in the foot.

I recall reading that when harry first met meghan and told his brother, william advised him not to rush into anything and harry took offense. I think that that was when the skin colour of any children was raised NOT when meghan was pregnant with archie as we are lead to believe........doesn't make it right maybe but they weren't married at that point

I find it hard to believe that it wasn’t rehearsed and the list of questions hadn’t been discussed and approved in advance.

Oprah gave them a very easy ride. When Harry acknowledged that Meghan was feeling suicidal and he made no attempt to seek professional help for her Oprah barely reacted. They weren’t locked up in the Tower of London with no access to the outside world. They were living in Frogmore cottage and could have phoned directly to the best care available. She could have received private counselling without even leaving the house. To say she was denied help because “the firm” blocked it just sounds like utter bull.

If they were concerned with the lack of security why didn’t they put their hands in their very deep pockets and pay for it themselves ? Or perhaps no one would want to work for them?

Funny isn't it. Some who appear to thoroughly dislike M and H just couldn't resist watching - and then moaning about the time they had wasted doing so.

I am not particularly interested in the machinations of the royal family and never bothered to watch Diana and Charles's or Harry and Meghan's wedding. I think such events are a hugely expensive embarrassment, particularly when they are frequently followed by affairs and divorces. Not quite the fairytale scenario that the general public seems to fall for every time. This interview certainly seems to have shone a light on the absurdity of this artificially induced devotion to a group of people who demonstrate no particular intellectual or moral qualities but who continue to be richly rewarded by the British public.

I tend to believe Meghan's report on what happened during her brief time with the family. The nickname "The Firm" appears to be wholly appropriate. Meghan should have thought more carefully about whether being part of an institution that is the very personification of inequality and unearned privilege would really be a comfortable place to live in but I think she and Harry were right to expose the insidious racism that they experienced.

When Harry acknowledged that Meghan was feeling suicidal and he made no attempt to seek professional help for her Oprah barely reacted. They weren’t locked up in the Tower of London with no access to the outside world. They were living in Frogmore cottage and could have phoned directly to the best care available. She could have received private counselling without even leaving the house. To say she was denied help because “the firm” blocked it just sounds like utter bull.

If I remember correctly Harry also said he felt ashamed that Meghan said she needed help, which I thought was very strange.

It was quite bizarre. Meghan made it sound like she was locked in the tower or something with no passport etc. I was actually wondering how she managed to get to Canada and the US seeing as how they kept it from her. Perhaps she travelled illegally.

Well I think some of you watched something different to me. I thought she was very clear not to blame the family - instead aiming her criticism at the institution (same as Diana). The only family criticism I saw came from Harry towards Charles & a little bit towards William. I think most of us in here must remember Charles’ response to Diana’s eating disorder. He doesn’t appear to be a man that really manages to cope with mental illness in others. Not unusual in a man his age but his lack of understanding of how much Harry was going to protect her may have caused some problems.

She was honest about how desperate she was & how that was met with no help (complete echoes of Diana - no wonder Harry felt his choices were limited). Add the security issues - the same thing happened to Diana. After her divorce she was not afforded the same security - and that was always said to be part of how she ended up in a tunnel with a drunk driver. I can see why Harry would feel history was repeating itself. I saw a comment on Twitter last night that Harry was the husband Diana needed and thought that really hit the nail on the head.

Interesting that they were refused the option of becoming minor royalty based in the commonwealth. Think the palace may have misjudged that one in the long run.

And it rather looked as if meeting her led Harry to recognise his own privilege. Not sure why that’s a bad thing. My son being born disabled opened my eyes to a world & prejudices I had no idea existed and in the early years it did feel important that our family understood the reality. Not all did & not all wanted to. At the time the lack of interest was hurtful - now I don’t care but the relationship with those people certainly suffered.

Some of you must be furious she didn’t get paid for the interview.

Glad they eventually managed to get out. Rather sad they couldn’t have become minor royals based in the commonwealth - think that would have been a major asset to the RF but wish them well.

I do have some sympathy for them and hope they do manage to live the life they want. Agree it would have been a good solution if they could have lived in the commonwealth as minor royals. The firm did them an injustice there.
But think unrealistic of them to think the Uk taxpayer should pay for their security when they made the decision to live abroad. Also think Archie can only be made a Prince on death of the Queen not before. Nothing to do with race. Also I am sure Meghan had the money and time to consult a counsellor privately over her mental health issues. Think Oprah gave them an easy time because she is a friend.

I may be wrong but didn't Diana decline royal protection in the end ?I seem to remember at the time of her death the opinion that if she had accepted it and not been covered by the Fayeds security she most probably would still be alive.

Diana refused royal protection. So many forget how she played the press, when she was having the relationship with
Hasnat Khan she was photographed attending an operation,
full make up, face mask and diamond earrings, how did the press get in there ?

She has become a saint.

If you go to your employer because your mental health is suffering, do you expect them to find, fund and facilitate treatment? 'The Firm' couldn't comply, not wouldn't because it's focus and function is the consistent 'running' of the Crown as a public institution. It's role isn't to conform to the individual needs of the RF as people, but as public figures. I cannot and do not believe for one minute that they would have or could have prevented H or M accessing private support that didn't include an in patient stay that would have adversely affected both the couple and the institution of the RF. How would Meghan have benefitted from "going somewhere" if that very action would have brought the press baying?

Equally, if you choose to leave you employer would you expect the benefits you gained from your position to follow you to your next job?

It looked to me that Meghan couldn't and cannot get her head around the fact that marrying a Prince gives you no power but a ton of obligations within an institution that doesn't know how to bend even if it could.

What they hoped to achieve from that interview is beyond me. I don't feel that I can argue with their reasons for leaving, but I am disturbed by their possible reasons for dishing the dirt. It was a calculated 'lashing out' with no other function than to inflict damage. What I watched was two young people who expected the world to bend to them and who kick back when it doesn't. Naive, undignified, spiteful, pointless and of zero benefit to their mental health unless playing tit for tat is now somehow a therapy.

I used to like Harry & Meghan - after last night they come across as a pair of whining children. No loss to the royal family.

10 minutes of it was enough for me. Yawn

Apparently Meghan did not hear the discussion about skin toned herself. I am wondering who so thoughtfully reported it back to her.

eazybee Meghan said in the interview that Harry had told her. I thought that was odd. Why say something he knew would upset her?

My immediate thoughts on her asking for help when she was struggling was why on earth first Harry use all his contacts to get some private counselling?.With his Heads Up campaign where he publicly stated he had had therapy surely that was his responsibility. I simply don't believe that wouldn't have been possible. Especially as Megan was pregnant and that in itself gave them a perfect excuse to step away from official engagements for a while.
I'm not saying I don't believe she was struggling at the timem.However experience with a DD during pregnancy and the months afterwards have made me realise how someone's 'truth' can vary wildly from the rest of the family.

Dh would definitely tell me something like that, it depends on your relationship. He would know I would want to know about it.

eazybee

Apparently Meghan did not hear the discussion about skin toned herself. I am wondering who so thoughtfully reported it back to her.

The implication was that Harry who shared the information.
Which is not clever at all, he just has no clue, there are some things your wife does not need to be told - it’s called discretion ,

eazybee

Apparently Meghan did not hear the discussion about skin toned herself. I am wondering who so thoughtfully reported it back to her.

My thoughts too. If a member of my family made a negative comment regarding my partner (racial or not) I wouldn't be relaying that to them - what good would that do?

I would leave someone who had kept that information from me. You cant expect people to react in the way you do.

Organised and staged, as was the couples decision to leave the country. Why couldn't they have just come clean about their intentions in the first place ?

Harry claims his father and brother are trapped, he is going to
educate them.

The only family members they named were Charles, William and Kate

Meghan said that Archie being a prince when Charles becomes king had been refused. She wasn’t talking about now.

Didn’t look organised and staged to me. If you’ve decided in advance you aren’t going to believe a single word they say you may as well just immerse yourself in the 25 pages of Mail diatribe today

Meghan admitted she had no concept of what the role of a working royal was, she had done ‘no research’ into the Royal Family. Perhaps Harry should have made things much clearer to her. I think he was besotted, and terrified if she were more aware, she would go the same way as Chelsey Davey and Cressida Bonas.

Security. Oprah should have brought up the fact that Royal Security is provided by the Metropolitan police, funded by the tax payer, who would not have been happy paying for a non working couple living abroad.

Titles. It seemed a big issue that Archie was not going to be a Prince, which is all to do with being in the direct line of succession. It was implied that was because of his mixed race heritage, which was nonsense. When Charles becomes King, he would be entitled to that title, but not now as they have left the Firm.

Meghan said she had no one to turn to with her suicidal thoughts. That surely should have been when Harry stepped in and sought expert help, he didn’t have to get permission to do that for his wife.

Popularity. This I felt had some truth in it. I think that compared to the Sussex’s, the Cambridges were in danger of coming across as rather staid and a bit fuddy duddy, and I can imagine this rankled with Catherine somewhat, and efforts were made to establish them as the ‘main’ couple.

No attempt was made to establish why only one member of Meghan’s family was invited to the wedding, or why Harry has never met her father.

Colour. Harry said the subject of ‘their kids colour’ was brought up, to me this sounded something mentioned very early in the relationship, not when they were expecting Archie. Not saying this makes it right, but don’t think it was targeted at him.

They said the Netflix and Spotify deals were made to pay for their security. This hadn’t been part of the plans to leave. So what exactly were they planning to live on?