The Conservatives have claimed Good Friday

Lucca

Eazybee if you’re a christian fine to wish people good Friday but no need for the conservative logo added, surely ?

Would any Christian wish other people "Good Friday". Oh, come on guys, this is the day they believe that Christ died and at this point, no one could be sure he would rise from the dead. I seriously don't think so.

Why would Nadhim Zahawi even do that? It's despicable. Today is the day Christians celebrate the resurrection to the eternal life of the man who, to quote Richard Murphy (a Quaker), "campaigned for economic justice for the poor, the forgiveness of their oppressive debts, and for monetary reform."

Again, to quote Murphy "Jesus was an economic reform campaigner. He died four days after he overturned the tables of the money changers in the Temple."

How dare, simply how dare, Conservatives try to claim either Jesus or Christianity! I see he has done the same for Easter Sunday. At the very least this shows an appalling knowledge of our history, based for centuries on Christianity. A best it is insulting to those whose day of celebration this is.

janeainsworth

I’ll just leave this here.....perhaps we should leave the politicians to their dirty point scoring and cultural appropriation and let them get on with it.

Interesting to see the people who can't see the difference between the two posts - if that is what you are saying janeainsworth?

Anniebach

The secret symbol is - Ichthus

And ichthys means fish in Greek Anniebach, which is exactly what Callistemon said. Not at all sure why we suddenly have to use the Greek rather than the English?

Firecracker123

Who knew The Labour Party have claimed Easter ?

They are wishing everyone a Happy Easter not branding it.

I find the Conservative branding insulting. I do not find this insulting and you are going to have to accept some people will feel that way however you want to paint it in the interests of one party. He got it wrong.

Firecracker123

Who knew The Labour Party have even claimed Passover ?

Same again Firecracker. You are scraping the barrel of little knowledge, aren't you?

Richard Murphy is wrong. Jesus wasn't a social reformer His mission was to teach us about God's love. He preached about giving to the poor and when He overturned the tables in the temple it had nothing to do with economic reform, but everything to do with His father's house being disrespected.

"My house shall be called a house of prayer but you have made it a den of robbers" Matthew 21 v 13.

Mollygo

I won’t look at this thread anymore, not even to see if my post has been deleted.

Political parties have posters associating them with a Happy Easter message , regardless of whether they are Christian or not, but none of them offer the vilification of each other’s party that you can read on here.
Happy and peaceful Easter to those who want one.

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Well said Mollygo
Hard to believe that a thread like this would even be started, let alone the many vituperative and gleeful comments about
A Conservative MP who ‘dares’ to put out a message ( even though we can all see the many messages put out by Labour both for Easter and other special days for different faiths.)
You would think he had done something terrible, instead of just acknowledging an important day in the Christian calendar. It’s all faux outrage ( typical of social media) and is just political point scoring from those who vote for different political parties.
If any Christian feels ‘offended’ by it then they need to grow a pair.I’m a Christian and we don’t offend easily in my experience, compared to other faiths.

Exactly Smileless he wasn’t a sort of holy Jeremy Corbyn,
He was simply trying to spread the message of God’s love. When people complained about paying taxes and so on, the message was pay unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s and pay unto God that which is God’s.

Lemongrove, wrong end of the stick completely. For me its got nothing to do with offence, not being a Christian its not for me to tell anyone to be offended or not.

Its about branding a religious festival with a political party logo. Here's a link to Johnson's Easter message. Very nice, very respectful. He says to people "Happy Easter". Very appropriate messaging during a pandemic.
twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1378610899926331394

Even this : twitter.com/Conservatives/status/1378618339648487425 : "Happy Easter" they say.

But just "Good Friday. Conservatives"? And a picture of the cross? Its not all about the Conservatives. Its about Easter. Someone needs to tell Zahawi that.

It happened to be Good Friday when he tweeted the pic.
So what. Haven’t posters who feel aggrieved by it anything more important to worry about.Obviously not.

https://www.gransnet.com/uploads/talk/202104/medium-421749-exzt8bywuaizid-.jpg https://www.gransnet.com/uploads/talk/202104/medium-432110-eyft0vsxaae6g0z.jpg https://www.gransnet.com/uploads/talk/202104/medium-409924-eyhiwfswyaeqpud.jpg

I just did a trawl of the main parties' twitters (Its a slow day in the Alegrias household....)

Images attached. Tory one is in my previous post.

Thoughts?

My thoughts are that you should give it a rest.

That's not very Christian.

I suspect that the majority of the population are secular, so I guess it is talking to a minority of the population.

Alegrias1

That's not very Christian.

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Aren't people are allowed to comment on their thoughts and feelings without being described in various ways as untruthful on here. Or is this the Gransnet way - not adding to the discussion but attacking the beliefs and feelings of others?

Could someone please explain to me what position posters hold on here that puts them so above others? I hadn't realised there is a hierarchy.

Smileless2012

Richard Murphy is wrong. Jesus wasn't a social reformer His mission was to teach us about God's love. He preached about giving to the poor and when He overturned the tables in the temple it had nothing to do with economic reform, but everything to do with His father's house being disrespected.

"My house shall be called a house of prayer but you have made it a den of robbers" Matthew 21 v 13.

I suggest you read a little wider Smileless before you start telling other they are "wrong". Try and forgive them their debts: Lending, Foreclosure and Redemption From Bronze Age Finance to the Jubilee Year (THE TYRANNY OF DEBT Book 1) by Michael Hudson.

I have a little theory that unless I know everything about something I should not tell others they know nothing. As I will never know everything about whatever I study I find that make you entitled to your view. However, it would be a little less graceless, both divine and otherwise to allow others their own point of view too.

Well said Lemongrove. This thread is all about faux outrage. Both parties have posted religious messages and I don't think either of them should. But of course Labour can do no wrong for some people, while the Conservatives are always guilty of something. It's laughable.
I just wonder why any of them are posting religious messages. They run the risk of annoying a lot of people. They should all keep away from religion.

" Both parties "?

I can count six without even trying.....

Chestnut

Well said Lemongrove. This thread is all about faux outrage. Both parties have posted religious messages and I don't think either of them should. But of course Labour can do no wrong for some people, while the Conservatives are always guilty of something. It's laughable.
I just wonder why any of them are posting religious messages. They run the risk of annoying a lot of people. They should all keep away from religion.

Do you really think it is okay to accuse other members of the forum of not telling the truth about how they feel? All parties have NOT posted in the same way, but even if you think they have it is not your place to tell others they cannot feel how they feel. The other parties sent good wishes on festivals. That was not the case here and your defense, although you have every right to make it, does ring a little hollow.

I think some need to stop calling others what amounts to liars and let people express their own views.

Mollygo

I won’t look at this thread anymore, not even to see if my post has been deleted.

Political parties have posters associating them with a Happy Easter message , regardless of whether they are Christian or not, but none of them offer the vilification of each other’s party that you can read on here.
Happy and peaceful Easter to those who want one.

You, and several others, are totally missing the point. Totally missing the point, despite being told several times what the point is.

NOBODY has any problem with politicians offering greetings to people from any religion on their great FESTIVALS.

Good Friday, as has also been said several times, Is NOT a festival. It's a very solemn and meaningful day in the christian calendar and a day of mourning. Does anyone go up to someone attending a funeral and say 'Happy Burial' to them?

Easter Sunday is the happy bit, when Christ rose from the dead. That's when the greetings are offered.

There is absolutely no similarity between politicians saying 'Happy Easter' and politicians tweeting bizarre pictures of an empty cross with 'GOOD Friday' and the party logo on it.

PippaZ You must be reading a lot of things between the lines of my post because I don't have a clue what you're talking about. I never called anyone a liar, or said they can't express their views. Although you seem to be telling me I can't express my views! ?

PippaZ

Lucca

Eazybee if you’re a christian fine to wish people good Friday but no need for the conservative logo added, surely ?

Would any Christian wish other people "Good Friday". Oh, come on guys, this is the day they believe that Christ died and at this point, no one could be sure he would rise from the dead. I seriously don't think so.

Why would Nadhim Zahawi even do that? It's despicable. Today is the day Christians celebrate the resurrection to the eternal life of the man who, to quote Richard Murphy (a Quaker), "campaigned for economic justice for the poor, the forgiveness of their oppressive debts, and for monetary reform."

Again, to quote Murphy "Jesus was an economic reform campaigner. He died four days after he overturned the tables of the money changers in the Temple."

How dare, simply how dare, Conservatives try to claim either Jesus or Christianity! I see he has done the same for Easter Sunday. At the very least this shows an appalling knowledge of our history, based for centuries on Christianity. A best it is insulting to those whose day of celebration this is.

I apologised immediately for typing too fast When what I meant was it’s ok to mark/recognise/acknowledge good Friday but not to associate it with party logo.

Whereas political party wishing happy Easter etc is ok. There is a difference .

Chestnut

PippaZ You must be reading a lot of things between the lines of my post because I don't have a clue what you're talking about. I never called anyone a liar, or said they can't express their views. Although you seem to be telling me I can't express my views! ?

Lemongroves last post before yours was "My thoughts are that you should give it a rest.". I don't think it was unreasonable to think you were agreeing with that with your "Well said Lemongrove."; you didn't refer to any particular post.

I disagree with various views and agree with others. I do not, unlike you, suggest my fellow posters are lying which is easily how "faux outrage" could be interpreted. I do wonder if personal attacks on other posters in this way is within talk guidelines.