Gransnet forums

News & politics

Sophie Wessex

(110 Posts)
Ngaio1 Mon 12-Apr-21 10:09:43

I have long been an admirer of Sophie. I found it very moving to see how much emotion she showed when talking about the DOE. Pleased that the Queen has this lovely lady to support her at this very sad time.

Jaberwok Mon 12-Apr-21 12:55:12

It's the content of a person's character that is important, and Sophie Wessex has never given cause for concern, Fergie? I think is a good person at heart, she's certainly embarrassed the RF a very long time ago, but has never personally set out to trash them, neither of these ladies have. M.M? No comment!!

trisher Mon 12-Apr-21 12:54:15

There was a lot posted about how Harry needed his dad's support and money but apparently both Edward and Sophie can rely on mum and nothing is said. As for the "didn't whine about the media. It was one story it wasn't a succesion of insults, racist and misogynist headlines about her family, her appearance and her habits.
The point is that they are none of them any better than any of the others. They all have substantial family resources, they all do limited and easy charitable work and make public appearances. Yet some are labelled "good"and some can't do right whatever they do.

Anniebach Mon 12-Apr-21 12:38:15

And mine Namsnanny

Aveline Mon 12-Apr-21 12:31:40

And mine Namsnanny

Namsnanny Mon 12-Apr-21 12:23:46

suziewoozie

For the avoidance of doubt, it’s obviously nice that she and Edward were able to re-establish themselves and be such stalwarts - I’m just pointing out they made mistakes and were forgiven.

I dont think they were forgiven
I would say both the RF and ES were being pragmatic.
Their venture into self support failed, so they (both sides) had to try to find a solution within the firm

There is one big difference between ES and HM and that is they didn't whine and lie, and throw their toys out of the pram!

Theyve played the long game and behaved like decent human beings.
Just my view of course.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 12-Apr-21 12:05:55

I agree about expressing an opinion, but as we have seen on GN and other social media sites this does get out of control and gets downright nasty at times.

Those people should not be encouraged because often what they post is so often speculation or repeated lies together misogyny, sexism or racism. It is sad to see the gutter being swept.

Anniebach Mon 12-Apr-21 12:04:26

Anne, Camilla, Sophie, Kate have never given interviews about
their private lives .

maddyone Mon 12-Apr-21 12:01:03

trisher absolutely not! It’s far too simplistic an argument to say good royals, bad royals.
As I said previously, public figures are liked or disliked according to what they say or do. It doesn’t matter whether they’re royal or not, simply that they either put themselves out there, or their job requires them to be out there. And people either like them, or they dislike them. The public have every right to form an opinion about anyone in the public eye. If a person dislikes royalty, or a particular member of the royal family, it is their right to express that opinion in a free society. Equally it is the right of anyone to express a liking for a member or members of the RF. If they like one, but dislike another, that is their right. You are expressing your opinion, others are allowed to express theirs.

Aveline Mon 12-Apr-21 11:59:41

Sophie didn't make a song and dance about her 'mistake' and try to sue the tabloids or give televised interviews about her hard life nor did she preach to us about conservation while ignoring it herself.
DH has met her and found her to be very pleasant and unassuming. Edward was there too. They are both tiny!
I always liked Fergie.

EllanVannin Mon 12-Apr-21 11:53:56

Another who's in the same league as Kate, middle class parents with no particular background that stands out but nevertheless a very nice " ordinary "person.

Puzzler61 Mon 12-Apr-21 11:52:56

My opinion was of the people rather than their business acumen.

trisher Mon 12-Apr-21 11:42:45

So Edward and Sophie, failed businesses, which both used royal connections to establish, but were still unsuccessful, so they fell back on the family firm. =good royals.
Meghan and Harry who seem to have become independent and are earning money=bad royals.
Is that how it works then? The spongers are OK the others aren't?

Lillie Mon 12-Apr-21 11:39:40

From what I have seen, I would like Sophie as a friend. She looks kind and caring.
I would also like Fergie as a friend for some fun and laughs.
I would like Zara as a daughter in law, maybe The Duchess of Cambridge too.
From what I have seen, I would not like Meghan in any form, other than maybe respecting her as mother to my grandchild.
Why, I do not know? Just gut feelings.

maddyone Mon 12-Apr-21 11:36:20

If we were only allowed an opinion on our direct experiences, then we’d have very few opinions.

suziewoozie Mon 12-Apr-21 11:34:23

trisher

Usual Good v. Bad Royals. Sophie, Anne= good. Fergie, Meghan=bad. It's speculation and imagination fuelled by press and media reports. You don't know any of them.

That was my point.

maddyone Mon 12-Apr-21 11:34:22

.....Sarah has learnt by her mistakes, although she was a very slow learner!
gringringrin

maddyone Mon 12-Apr-21 11:33:02

I don’t believe in the good royal, bad royal theory. People, whether public figures or private citizens, are judged by what they do. Thus many people intensely dislike Piers Morgan (as an example.) Usually people who don’t like him judge him by what he does, as indeed his fans judge him by what he does. He’s liked or disliked according to his actions. Most people, whether they like him or dislike him, do not know him and have never met him. I use him as an example only.
It’s the same with the royals. People form a judgment based on the behaviour of well known people. Sophie has shown herself to be supportive to the RF and appears very pleasant when she occasionally speaks. This is what she is judged on. She appears likeable, she supports the monarch, she keeps her council, and she learns from mistakes. That would appear to be why she is seen in a favourable light.

Callistemon Mon 12-Apr-21 11:21:17

Sophie made a mistake, learnt by it quickly and has kept a low profile since.

Meghan and Sarah went to America and courted publicity.
To be fair, Sarah has learnt by her mistakes, although she was a very slow learner!

Casdon Mon 12-Apr-21 11:17:09

You do know which ones court publicity though trisher because they are quoted ad nauseum when they raise their heads about the parapet.

Puzzler61 Mon 12-Apr-21 11:16:19

You’re right trisher but I am happy to give my speculative opinion,

trisher Mon 12-Apr-21 11:15:13

Usual Good v. Bad Royals. Sophie, Anne= good. Fergie, Meghan=bad. It's speculation and imagination fuelled by press and media reports. You don't know any of them.

Casdon Mon 12-Apr-21 11:14:02

I think Sophie was a quick learner, one mistake and she’s kept her own counsel ever since. She has the major strength for a royal of not being a personal publicity seeker, in fact she seems quite the opposite. Maybe she learned from Princess Anne, and is humble enough to take advice, they do walk a very narrow tightrope of public opinion.

Puzzler61 Mon 12-Apr-21 11:12:57

It’s nice to think the Queen is close to Sophie and from what I see is close to Camilla too these days. Since losing her mum and her sister it is good to know her Majesty has these family members who she seems very fond of, and they of her.

maddyone Mon 12-Apr-21 11:07:27

Yes, Sophie did make a mistake. It was whilst she was still working just after her marriage. It just goes to show how less than honourable people will try to use and manipulate the royals for their own benefit.
I like what I’ve seen of Sophie. I think Sophie and Edward have both stepped up to the mark since they stopped working commercially. Neither Sophie nor Edward have ever given an interview critical of the RF. They learnt from their early mistakes and moved forward providing a completely supportive role to the monarchy. I’ve heard that the Queen is extremely fond of Sophie. I can see why.

suziewoozie Mon 12-Apr-21 11:03:38

eazybee

Sophie Wessex made one big mistake; she was foolish and inexperienced, and very much set up; an unpleasant media sting.

She was a similar age to MM, had been married for two years and in a relationship with him for about 8. She had a PR background and the advantage of growing up the UK in terms of being aware. I love the term media sting - she was after making a quick buck and apparently said some pretty unwise things about several people - both royal and political. But she was given another chance