Anyone understand why Johnson is so far ahead in the polls?

The 2011 changes to pensions didn't just affect women's pensions. They affected men as well

Pfft.
Tell that to the WASPI’s. I lost out on £39,000.
Oh well I’d only have spent it. Like other women who got theirs at 60y.

Thanks Cleggie.

SKY NEWS:

“The political tide is still against Labour”.

Urmstongran

^The 2011 changes to pensions didn't just affect women's pensions. They affected men as well^

Pfft.
Tell that to the WASPI’s. I lost out on £39,000.
Oh well I’d only have spent it. Like other women who got theirs at 60y.

Thanks Cleggie.

No, you didn't, If you hadn't walked around with your eyes closed, you'd have realised about the changes in the mid 90s.

The 2011 changes affected men and women.

PS. I've only just turned 66, so "lost out" on more.

And if you were that bothered, you should have voted for Corbyn, who pledged to compensate the GRASPIs.

Nick Clegg didn't "do it" as you put it, for me but the way the Conservatives acted in coalition did.

I still think this is the Reality Show view again. Nick Clegg voted out because he didn't make being the junior partner in a coalition work as if the party was the senior partner. Reality will strike eventually in this country; I just wonder what damage will have been done by then.

The Liberal Democrats in parliament revolted over the raising of the women's retirement age some signing an early-day motion. Yet again let's look at the reality. The Tories had the weight to get it carried through.

So objecting to these things why still support the Tories?

I'm not sure about the point of your Dad's age but mine would have been 103 by now. He and I both joined the SDP without mentioning it to one another until we were both going to the inaugural meeting in our area and I am sure he was right to support what he believed in even if they were unlikely to be the "winning" contestant.

Mum, just to round this off, would have been 100 if she had lived until last November but sadly she died in the February. She voted to remain. I don't think, having lived for many years in Germany, directly after the war, including in a nearly wiped out Hamburg, she would ever have thought not working as a group was a good thing.

Urmstongran

^The 2011 changes to pensions didn't just affect women's pensions. They affected men as well^

Pfft.
Tell that to the WASPI’s. I lost out on £39,000.
Oh well I’d only have spent it. Like other women who got theirs at 60y.

Thanks Cleggie.

And you will get it back via a higher basic pension over the next years.

I worked it out PippaZ. If I live to 82y I’ll break even.

Next.

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I think it has a lot to do with voter stupidy/venality/ignorance.

PS. I've only just turned 66, so "lost out" on more
Me too. 66y last August.
1954 cohort were the hardest hit, financially.

poshpaws did your mum never tell you that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit?

Nick Clegg cheered on George Osborne, we saw him, until an adviser told him that it was not a good look.

By Jove! There’s a positive river of intellectual and liberal smugness running through this thread now.?It started as a tiny trickle, then became a stream, now it’s turned into the Thames.Not truly being able to define why the Conservatives are riding high in the polls, posters have fallen back on the old comforts of Brexit ( and how the uneducated masses forced it on us).Been there, done that, got the Brexit tee shirt.
I think the answer to the OP is... that everybody understands it but many can’t face the reality of it ( in other words, they don’t like the answer, so shy away from it.)

poshpaws attitudes like yours towards others is the reason why Conservatives have an eighty seat majority.

So they have. Heaven help us.....

GG13 ? and lemongrove too ?

Off I toddle before my blood pressure rises .... ?

Urmstongran

I worked it out PippaZ. If I live to 82y I’ll break even.

Next.

Isn't that how pensions work. Some will live past 82 or whatever.

GrannyGravy13

poshpaws attitudes like yours towards others is the reason why Conservatives have an eighty seat majority.

So yet again you are saying you are voting Conservative because other people are not nice to you when you do?

If I comment I'll be deleted.

I love my country. That’s why it breaks my heart to see what’s happening to it. I resent anyone telling me that I don’t love it.

Just remember MayBeethose who call others unpatriotic or say they don't love their country are cowards at heart, saying that sort of thing from behind a screen. They are not worth being upset about.

No competition

Urmstongran
Don’t be angry: just imagine how unhappy they are knowing that they keep on backing the loosing side.
It’s quite funny when you think about it ?

It’s the country that’s losing. I find it sad that that amuses you.

MayBee70

It’s the country that’s losing. I find it sad that that amuses you.

Quite

Urmstongran

SKY NEWS:

“The political tide is still against Labour”.

This is news?

Urmstongran

^The 2011 changes to pensions didn't just affect women's pensions. They affected men as well^

Pfft.
Tell that to the WASPI’s. I lost out on £39,000.
Oh well I’d only have spent it. Like other women who got theirs at 60y.

Thanks Cleggie.

Tell that to the WASPI’s. I lost out on £39,000.
Oh well I’d only have spent it. Like other women who got theirs at 60y.

But look on the bright side, Urmstongran, you'll get £50 a week more (at least) than me when you do get it so it could work out at even stevens at some point, all being well. ?