Anyone understand why Johnson is so far ahead in the polls? ( 2)

Whitewavemark2

I live in the remainer south and Johnson is not popular.

In fact I don’t recognise a lot of what grans in the north say.

Supporters of Labour in the south tend to be younger. Worthing has traditionally never return a labour councillor and now has 9

Brighton of course is Green whose support is growing.

Support is turning away from the Tories.

We are truly a country of division.

Yes, younger trendy woke Labour voters are moving out from London and buying up every barn in the South!?
Apart from in large cities, the support for Labour comes from them and not now the backbone of Labour in the past...the working classes.Large swathes of the North may never vote Labour again.

MayBee70

Maybe if Labours (and Greens and LibDem) successes weren’t ignored by the news media we wouldn’t have to.

See the above clip which illustrates the role of the BBC in disseminating false information ( not just ignoring certain items of news)

Methinks the Brexit Broadcasting Corporation have morphed into the Boris Broadcasting Corporation.

lemongrove

Whitewavemark2

I live in the remainer south and Johnson is not popular.

In fact I don’t recognise a lot of what grans in the north say.

Supporters of Labour in the south tend to be younger. Worthing has traditionally never return a labour councillor and now has 9

Brighton of course is Green whose support is growing.

Support is turning away from the Tories.

We are truly a country of division.

Yes, younger trendy woke Labour voters are moving out from London and buying up every barn in the South!?
Apart from in large cities, the support for Labour comes from them and not now the backbone of Labour in the past...the working classes.Large swathes of the North may never vote Labour again.

You wouldn’t have a link to this would you - you know as in facts and evidence? ?

CNN could teach the BBC a thing or two.

They are now calling out every lie told by any politician at the time of the interview and also refusing to interview anyone that continually pushes the same lie.

I think it is very clear that support for Labour is coming from younger people with higher levels of education. Not sure why this should be a surprise to anyone. The analysis of the demographics shows that constituencies such as Hartlepool have many more older people, as the young leave to find work.

Whitewavemark2

CNN could teach the BBC a thing or two.

They are now calling out every lie told by any politician at the time of the interview and also refusing to interview anyone that continually pushes the same lie.

My dgs’ fish could teach the BBC a thing or two.

But good on CNN. If the BBC did that with the Tories ( hollow laugh at the very thought) they wouldn’t have time for anything else

Mamie

I think it is very clear that support for Labour is coming from younger people with higher levels of education. Not sure why this should be a surprise to anyone. The analysis of the demographics shows that constituencies such as Hartlepool have many more older people, as the young leave to find work.

Not sure that Hartlepool age demographics are very different.

I have seen that from a few sources suziewoozie. Probably not different from many of the post-industrial Labour heartlands?

Are you back in UK Mamie? I’ve missed your delicious food ideas which I used to catch up with on the low carb thread

No still in France Greeneyedgirl, just never lost my interest in politics!
Will PM you. ?

Just saw a clip from BBC Breakfast that my DD sent me. It is an interview with two Hartlepool voters, father and son. The old man had been a traditional Labour voter but had voted Tory because Labour had cut the police and the NHS!
The interviewer forgot to point out Conservatives had been in power for the last ten years.

But the labour party had held the council seat for something like 50 years. So if there are issues in hartlepool with relation to services then bloody right labour will get the blame. The same has happened in Durham because the labour council wasnt good. There are chickens coming to roost all over the place and I say this as a life long labour voter.

My Mum <former mining area> said their whole council has turned blue apart from one Independent

Many of the electorate do seem very confused. One person phoning in to LBC yesterday said they lived in Hartlepool, and usually a Labour voter, but had changed to Conservatives this time as 'under them the town had seven foodbanks, whereas when Labour was national government they only had one!!!

Hopefully the attachment I have made wil lwork

Galaxy

But the labour party had held the council seat for something like 50 years. So if there are issues in hartlepool with relation to services then bloody right labour will get the blame. The same has happened in Durham because the labour council wasnt good. There are chickens coming to roost all over the place and I say this as a life long labour voter.

What do you mean?

Franbern

Many of the electorate do seem very confused. One person phoning in to LBC yesterday said they lived in Hartlepool, and usually a Labour voter, but had changed to Conservatives this time as 'under them the town had seven foodbanks, whereas when Labour was national government they only had one!!!

Hopefully the attachment I have made wil lwork

I saw that too
Socialists will run out of money/energy soon and will have to stop doing voluntary work.
Then
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happen?

Galaxy

But the labour party had held the council seat for something like 50 years. So if there are issues in hartlepool with relation to services then bloody right labour will get the blame. The same has happened in Durham because the labour council wasnt good. There are chickens coming to roost all over the place and I say this as a life long labour voter.

But the Police and NHS are mainly funded by central government, Galaxy.

That some of the labour councils are very poor. The story of the labour council in Sunderland in recent times involved a leader convicted of murder. I am not joking. He is not there now but this is what we have been dealing with.

Yes I know that Nandalot but I suspect people are conflating a number of issues and that some of the labour councils took the blame for that.

Mollygo

Oh and Growstuff, I made an error. It was double figures of thousands per annum we lost, i.e. quintuple figures. (Quintuple means 5)
If it didn’t affect you, lucky you.
Dismissing something as impossible because it hasn’t happened to you is like saying no one else can have toothache because you never have.
But if it keeps you busy, do continue your ‘it can’t be true’ posts.

I assume that you're not talking about the state pension given that your OH has lost thousands a year. He's not the only one but when GNers talk in any depth about pensions the subject is usually the State pension. That is the only pension that many of them have.

Back in the 90s annuity rates collapsed. Annuities being what were purchased with one's pension pot at that time. Now it's different - there's a much wider choice of investments for private pensions.

I remember the value of my private pension dropping, not that it made much difference because it was with Equitable Life, if you remember that saga.

In 1990 the annuity rate for a 65 year old man was 15.5%. In 2004 the rate was between 8 and 9%. Currently it's between 3 and 4%. The reason for the decline is the decline in gilts and also for increased longevity.

Sorry he was never convicted, I forget that part of the story, the two witnesses mysteriously changed their story.

Yes some voters don’t understand who’s responsible for what but for that BBC patsy to be nodding along is a disgrace.

I think that the BBC is being blamed rather too much. People complain when the journalists disagree with the public and now (as above) when they don't. The political programmes all have fact checkers - at least the ones that I watch do.

With regard to CNN - they are not publicly funded. The BBC is and sadly has to deal with a Tory government constantly wanting to reduce its funding.