Meanwhile, in Scotland....

dragonfly46

And your point being Aleg. What is wrong with having ID cards? I lived with them for 18 years in the Netherlands and they solved more problems than they created.
If you have nothing to hide I cannot see why you object.

There's a whole other thread. Its interesting. "Queen's Speech".

If you've done nothing wrong you've got nothing to worry about.

Can't you look them up Lemongrove?

I’m with aleg. If it was a bit warmer I’d be moving there. It was fabulous to see a protest with a good outcome ?

Anyway. 13 languages in Parliament, isn't that good?

Expensive twaddle. Bring on the dancing girls. Oh, I mean usher in the translators. Unnecessary in my opinion. They all speak English (otherwise they wouldn’t be able to work on behalf of their constituents!). Virtue signalling at its worst. I’m glad that’s not going on in the HoC. Costs would spiral!

If the appeals process has run it’s full course...in that case, if they were denied permission to reside here they could vanish into their communities never to be seen again.Yes, it has happened unsurprisingly. There could be protests mounted on behalf of would be immigrants but not scenes like yesterday when officials acting in a legal way are obstructed by a mob.

We shall just have to agree to disagree ladies.

Oh I will look it up Aleg but thought you may be anxious to show us all these many many languages.?

Urmstongran

^Anyway. 13 languages in Parliament, isn't that good?^

Expensive twaddle. Bring on the dancing girls. Oh, I mean usher in the translators. Unnecessary in my opinion. They all speak English (otherwise they wouldn’t be able to work on behalf of their constituents!). Virtue signalling at its worst. I’m glad that’s not going on in the HoC. Costs would spiral!

People making the oath in whatever language they want to, not translated. Doesn't cost anything.

Business of the Parliament is in English.

BTW, I'm Scotland born and bred and my first language isn't English.

BTW, I'm Scotland born and bred and my first language isn't English.

Same for my 90y old Scottish stepfather. Gaelic speaking in his village.

He was appalled to see the scenes in Glasgow BTW.

Just a thought.

If ID cards are made a legal requirement.

What happens if the government decides for reasons of its own to take your ID card away?

Whitewavemark2

I was incredibly impressed by the Glaswegians. What a sense of community and rejection of the Home Office and its Nazi style dawn raids.

You would think they would know just what that looks like. Did they learn nothing from the 1930s/40s.

Unlikely? If so you’d challenge it & see a solicitor.

I wonder if his opinion has changed?

Sorry

Alegrias1

Keep digging ladies..... ??

Amazing how little some care for the democracy of the citizen. They really don't do they? I find this very, very concerning.

I want Hadrian's Wall back then I'd be living in Scotland!!
Three cheers for the Scots and the Glaswegians who believe in proper and humanitarian. treatment even for illegal immigrants. Surely the mark of a civilised country is how you treat the weakest and poorest in your society.

Urmstongran

Unlikely? If so you’d challenge it & see a solicitor.

Especially if you are very poor with zero resources at your disposal.

Like that’s going to happen.

Next generation well and truly brainwashed.
Isn't this a form of abuse ? Shocking. Not allowed an opinion.

The thought police are alive and kicking in this country. Scary.

No wonder Patel wants to stop protest.

The police would have the powers to arrest all those protesters if she has her way. Their humanity and solidarity would be trashed.

Whitewavemark2

Sorry

Good Lord. I can't believe that doesn't remind everyone of what we have seen befor and fought against. A ghetto?

It does appear that it was not Johnson saying it but he did publish it. And people complain when I mention dictators and Hitler ...

By the way, did Alegrias1 say people could shorten her name? You do realise it a control and coercion tactic, don't you? Seems to me some people are feeling very insecure at the moment.

Whitewavemark2

Sorry

Good Lord. I can't believe that doesn't remind everyone of what we have seen befor and fought against. A ghetto?

It does appear that it was not Johnson saying it but he did publish it. And people complain when I mention dictators and Hitler ...

By the way, did Alegrias1 say people could shorten her name? You do realise it a control and coercion tactic, don't you? Seems to me some people are feeling very insecure at the moment.

Sorry -it seems to be double post or nothing currently.

“ If Priti Patel and her stasi treated migrants with compassion and decency then we wouldn't be witnessing scenes like we are today in Glasgow, but no she plays to a demograph mired in racism, xenophobia and hatred, Patel plays to this gallery, tells you everything about her..”

TBF, I do sometimes shorten people's usernames because its quicker to type. But usually I try to use initials or a whole word, as opposed to just something that I think will annoy the poster in question.

As they say in my first language () They can ca' me anythin' they like as lang as they dinna ca' me ower

But thanks PippaZ

Coming onto GN at the moment is like entering a parallel universe.