Political implications of Johnson's Catholicisim

Eton! Blasted autocorrect.

Maddyone- the law that makes the child/ren legitimate is when the parents then go on to marry.It doesn't matter whether its in a church, or just by registrar.But the child then is legitimate.

For goodness sake, does it matter?

It matters for inheritance Lazypaws.

Nanna2 - Maybe not a serial cheat but a cheat nonetheless, Prince Charles has said he wants to be Head if All Faiths!!

According to modern Canon Law - that is the law governing matters such as marriage and baptism in the Catholic church all marriages entered into by two baptised people, irrespective of the denominations they belonged to at the time of their marriage, count as a marriage in the eyes of the Catholic church.

Even if Boris Johnsen could be regarded as non-Catholic, which by my understanding he cannot, as he was baptised in the Catholic church, his former marriages (or at the very least the first of them) would even although he was divorced have had to be nullified by a Catholic ecclesiastical court to allow him to marry in a Catholic ceremony, irrespective of whether the woman he intended to marry was a Catholic or not.

This matter has been attended to, of that you can all be sure, otherwise the couple could not have married in a Catholic church anywhere at all.

There is no obligation on the parties to publish the fact that a nullification process has been instituted and completed.

They know that, so do Johnson's former (divorced) spouses as they have been sent the papers and given the opportunity to comment upon them and the priest who officiated has received a copy of the ruling.

British law specifically permits a special licence to be purchased allowing a couple to marry without the banns having been made public.

There is nothing shame-faced about this procedure. I imagine a great deal of public figures would be well advised to marry privately to avoid some of all the publicity that they know they will otherwise have to deal with.

Frankly speculation about Boris Johnson's faith or lack thereof strikes me as uncharitable in the extreme.

By choosing to marry in a Catholic ceremony, he has clearly shown that either he has a personal commitment to the church, or a personal commitment and respect for the faith of the woman who is now his wife.

Whether or how much he believes in the teaching of the church, or more importantly in the teaching of Christ is really none of our business.

I agree this is really non of our business.

A man on his third marriage, who seems to change his religion to suit the circumstances of his life and leaves previous wives and children so disrespectfully should be free to do so even
if he holds a high office of the land, without anyone condoning
it.

ay ya ya!

Excellent and informative post, grandetante. You obviously know what you are talking about!

My Mum ( a Catholic) and Dad (C of E) were married in a Registry Office during the war. Mum said how the Priest, who was a bit of a family friend too, used to come around and try to get them to marry again in the RC Church as their marriage was not recognised in the eyes of God. She used to go mad and many arguments ensued as she didn’t believe God would be as biased! Good for Mum!

Did they have a Nuptial Mass? I have seen no mention of this.
It's only allowed if both parties are Catholics, or was in my day. May have changed since.

I used to teach in a Catholic high school 1970-71 and I was a Methodist. No one ever asked me anything about it. I used to say Hail Marys with the best of them, everyone did. I wouldn't do it these days because I am more committed to my particular faith.

Thanks for the explanation grandtante

My son and DIL had a nuptial Mass. DIL was a member of the Church of Scotland and had been baptised. That was sixteen years ago.

Totally agree!

Would be interesting to know what Poot, Paisley and Forster feel about this in NI ?

Yes Kali2, you took the words out of my mouth. In a perfect world the religion of the PM should not matter as it is a personal thing. However, if he brings his religion to bear on policies that affect all, or some, of the electorate that is another matter entirely. For example, what if he orchestrated that only Roman Catholics could run for selection, got a massive majority and then implemented policies like doing away with divorce, contraception, abortions, education of women etc? All across the world we see the religion of the leaders denying others their rights. I seem to remember an outcry over the staunchly held beliefs of the people Kali2 mentions.

Two people fell in love and got married. That should be enough reason for anyone

Would you be in such a froth if he was a practising Muslim Kali? Jewish? Sikh? Is it actually the religious aspect that's ruffling your feathers or is it anything whatsoever that BoJo does/says/thinks?

Cherie Blair was a Catholic and Tony converted.

Good point Sooze58; the Catholic church, the government and the country appeared to survive the cataclysmic fallout from that didn't it? Oh wait...... that's right, no one actually cared. Unless kali2 is still ruminating on it?

I blame Henry VIII
He set all the precedents

Tony only converted once he had left Downing Street.

It shouldn't really matter what religion the PM is. Regardless of his religion, he should be impartial.

This thread is going nowhere, because posters are just repeating the same thing over and over again, without bothering to read what has been previously posted.
I for one, would prefer to read posts based on facts, not speculation and half baked knowledge of Catholicism. However, as this is an open forum, everyone has the right to post.

Regardless of his religion, he should be impartial.

I wouldn't like to think that a person's religion would preclude them from becoming Prime Minister in multicultural Britain.

Me too, Callistemon, which is why I found this comment: For example, what if he orchestrated that only Roman Catholics could run for selection, got a massive majority and then implemented policies like doing away with divorce, contraception, abortions, education of women etc a little bit unsettling. Is that how some posters perceive Catholics?

I will have to retreat from this thread, my BP is going through the roof, especially as I have detected a hint of anti Catholicism on this thread.

We should be able live our lives, respecting all religions, none of us can be absolutely sure we have chosen the right one! Live and let live!!