Keir Starmer

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PippaZ

Urmstongran

Oh stop being so supercilious PippaZ.

So why am I being supercilious in holding an opinion of those whose posts I have read when we all know there would be posters up in arms if I said they were stupid, ill-informed and ignorant for expressing an opinion on something they hadn't bothered to watch.

Isn't yours just a spiteful and childish attack on a fellow poster Urmstongran? It's that sort of thinking that makes me think that we have degenerated to a shameful level. Lies are okay. Immoral actions are okay. Stealing is okay. Being a reasonable, moral and balanced human being appears not to be.

It's the latest big word of the day. Some people can't argue, so they call people names.

Or invent incredible stuff about them to shut them up.

This is exactly what is needed.

Keir Starmer
@Keir_Starmer
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@JoeBiden
’s global minimum corporate tax rate of 21% could raise £14.7 billion for Britain every year.

More than enough to fix the NHS funding shortfall.

But Boris Johnson wants to water it down to 15% - letting big multinationals off £6.8 billion.

Let's back Biden's plan.

Blimey, I have just skimmed this thread and it appears to me that only some are allowed an opinion ? The following is my opinion on the OP.

For what it’s worth I did watch the programme and found the whole thing rather needy not sure I agree with the leader of the main opposition party doing a so called warts and all interview with Piers Morgan (who’s opinions and allegiances change with the wind).

Whilst I do not agree with some of the allegations made against our PM I do think it’s correct to keep ones private life private and not go on prime time mainstream TV in order to garner support for KS and the Labour Party.

Are you joking. Johnson has spent his life plugging his image kn TV. Its been a PR strategy of years.

Exactly, the hypocrisy is mind blowing.

Starmer is biding his time- he is letting Johnson plenty of rope, and he is slowly making good/bad use of it. When the right time comes, Starmer will pounce, from such a great height, and he will be fully and totally 100% prepared.

Watch this space.

So is Keir Starmer in favour of raising corporation tax now?

Kali2

Exactly, the hypocrisy is mind blowing.

Starmer is biding his time- he is letting Johnson plenty of rope, and he is slowly making good/bad use of it. When the right time comes, Starmer will pounce, from such a great height, and he will be fully and totally 100% prepared.

Watch this space.

Hello Kali2
I’m watching the space.
Unashamed to say I see Starmer as an ethical politician

Kali2

Exactly, the hypocrisy is mind blowing.

Starmer is biding his time- he is letting Johnson plenty of rope, and he is slowly making good/bad use of it. When the right time comes, Starmer will pounce, from such a great height, and he will be fully and totally 100% prepared.

Watch this space.

Biding his time maybe but that’s not what matters, unless he has the backing of the majority of the Labour Party behind him it will come to nothing. It’s only three and a half years to the next election, if he is going to be a credible candidate things have to change quickly.

Whilst I do not agree with some of the allegations made against our PM I do think it’s correct to keep ones private life private and not go on prime time mainstream TV in order to garner support for KS and the Labour Party.

Well our PM has much to be private about.

Katie59

Kali2

Exactly, the hypocrisy is mind blowing.

Starmer is biding his time- he is letting Johnson plenty of rope, and he is slowly making good/bad use of it. When the right time comes, Starmer will pounce, from such a great height, and he will be fully and totally 100% prepared.

Watch this space.

Biding his time maybe but that’s not what matters, unless he has the backing of the majority of the Labour Party behind him it will come to nothing. It’s only three and a half years to the next election, if he is going to be a credible candidate things have to change quickly.

Agreed- as Johnson will probably call the Election early in 2023.

Ilovecheese

So is Keir Starmer in favour of raising corporation tax now?

it is currently 19%, and has been for a few years.

As a great and experienced Barrister, he knows timing is paramount. He will know when the time is right.

Three months ago he thought it would be wrong to raise corporation tax. Glad to see he has changed his mind.

He's often changing his mind. I have a relative who is a Labour councillor and she's hoping he might be removed before the next election.

twitter.com/hackneyabbott/status/1371427712267603968?lang=en

I just don't think your average Joe or Jane Public is keen on him.

Ilovecheese

Three months ago he thought it would be wrong to raise corporation tax. Glad to see he has changed his mind.

Where has he said that?

Talullah

He's often changing his mind. I have a relative who is a Labour councillor and she's hoping he might be removed before the next election.

twitter.com/hackneyabbott/status/1371427712267603968?lang=en

I just don't think your average Joe or Jane Public is keen on him.

What has he changed his mind on Talullah?

I just don't think your average Joe or Jane Public is keen on him.

That's odd, because we were told earlier that Joe or Jane Public had never heard of him...

As a Conservative voter (but open to alternatives) I welcome a strong opposition and thereby a strong opposition leader, I am just not sure that KS is that leader?

There are different types of opposition leader though, so kinnock for example was never going to be PM but he had a job to do and looking back he did that job well. I for one didnt realise it at the time. I am not saying that Starmer is like Kinnock but I think he may have a particular job to do. I feel as if I may have said this before, sorry if that's the case!

It is a long time before we are likely to have another General Election so many things could happen before Starmer faces his major test to end Labour's lengthy time in opposition. It must be sobering for him, though, that, according to YouGov, he is rated 4th most popular Labour politician after Ed Balls, Gordon Brown and Sadiq Khan. YouGov's latest voting intention poll shows Conservative 43% and Labour 29%, this after a torrid time in office for the government.

yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2021/05/28/voting-intention-con-43-lab-29-27-28-may

Personally, I don't find Starmer very convincing; but that goes for most politicians and all parties. I suspect that I am not alone in the real world although perhaps in a minority here.

There are two ways that Keir Starker could become our next PM-

Get Rupert Murdoch to support him

or

Support electoral reform and engage with all the other progressive parties to form an an alliance for one last FPTP election to defeat the Tories the bring in Proportional Representation.

Starmer not Starker

Varian: Well, getting Rupert Murdoch's support worked for Tony Blair in 1997 so perhaps....

I seem to remember there was a Referendum to end FPTP in 2011 and the proposal was conclusively defeated. Of course, there is now a growing tradition among some in politics to keep asking the question until the public gives the right answer but hopefully not in this case.

I also seem to remember a Coalition proposal to re-draw the constituency boundaries and reduce the number of MPs. Constituency boundaries will finally be re-drawn for 2023 but, sadly, with still 650 MPs.

For more than forty years no Prime Minister has won a general election without the support of Ruport Murdoch who is not even British.

The AV referendum was just a ploy to reinforce FPTP. which advantages the Tories, AV is not proportional representation. It is time the UK became a democracy - a country where the government is supported by the majority, not by a minority of voters.

Varian: That will be why the BBC reported the AV Referendum result as 'The UK has voted overwhelmingly to reject changing the way MPs are elected - dealing a bitter blow to Nick Clegg on top of heavy Lib Dem poll losses.' 'Mr Clegg said: "I wish I could say this was a photo finish but it isn't, the result is very clear. I'm a passionate supporter of political reform but when the answer is as clear as this, you have got to accept it.""This is a bitter blow for all those people, like me, who believe in the need for political reform."'

By the way, Rupert Murdoch companies own more than one news outlet, not all of which lean in the same direction.