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Matt Hancock….

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MayBee70 Thu 10-Jun-21 12:47:08

Anyone watching this now? He really does talk the talk doesn’t he. Has just stated that no health worker has died due to lack of PPE. At least Sarah Owen is now giving him a good grilling.

Ro60 Wed 16-Jun-21 20:51:01

Hallelujah! I've thought maybe I'm getting the wrong end of the stick! It all seems total madness.

Proves again Bojo picked 'yes men'.

Glad to see others are thinking the same so I presume across the nation too. Somethings got to give - surely?

Then there's the swearing issue - I always thought it was unacceptable in a work environment; in my lowly job it would result in a disciplinary at the very least.

MaizieD Wed 16-Jun-21 19:14:05

Is that even legal?

Seeing that various government acts by ministers in the past year or so have been found to be 'unlawful' , Chestnut, I think it's a bit late to be worrying about 'legality' now.

Peasblossom Wed 16-Jun-21 18:36:49

That should have come out bold ??‍♀️

Peasblossom Wed 16-Jun-21 18:36:24

It does occur to me that he just happened to be in situ *and nobody else would take it on*?

grumppa Wed 16-Jun-21 18:35:55

Since Johnson’s default way of speech is hyperbole - fantastic, terrific, world-beating - , when things are adequate at best, it may work in reverse as well. So when he says someone is useless, he may actually mean that they’re doing a reasonable job.

varian Wed 16-Jun-21 18:20:03

Now we know why Hancock has always looked like a rabbit caught in the headlights. Everyone around him, including the PM , regarded him as useless, but for whatever bizarre political reasons, he was kept in the job despite being totally out of his depth.

PippaZ Wed 16-Jun-21 18:13:31

I think most people consider WhatsApp to be secure theworriedwell - from journalists at least - as it is encripted before it leaves your device. Having seen some of the governments IT undertakings they may well be safer using it.

I don't think Cummings has a "stop" button Chestnut nor a "stick to the rules" one. But they did know that before he was given the job.

theworriedwell Wed 16-Jun-21 17:43:28

Should govt messages be sent on WhatsApp. Surely they should have secure email or something.

Chestnut Wed 16-Jun-21 17:34:54

I'm not trying to defend anybody, but what concerns me is that Cummings has released hundreds of private WhatsApp messages into the public domain. Is that even legal? Surely private Government messages, letters, documents etc. are protected by the Official Secrets Act, so how is this even possible? I am astonished and worried, because if these can be released then what else can be released? It could result in a breach of national security.

vegansrock Wed 16-Jun-21 16:42:39

Trouble is Cummings was the one who presided over this government’s lies and an inability to sack anyone, he is the prime example. Hopefully the teflon coating will wear thin, but this latest gossip, even if cast iron truth, isn’t going to stick.

PippaZ Wed 16-Jun-21 15:50:37

Here is Health Secretary Matt Hancock insisting his Government’s derisory 1% pay offer to NHS staff is a “real terms” pay rise.

luluaugust Wed 16-Jun-21 15:42:53

Didn't D C ever sign the Official Secrets Act? Would any fo us be surprised about the "something" when it came out?

Kali2 Wed 16-Jun-21 15:34:14

I think more or less everyone close to Johnson has something on him!

Ilovecheese Wed 16-Jun-21 15:34:07

So that is the sort of thanks that Boris Johnson gives a minister that has been so loyal to him.

MayBee70 Wed 16-Jun-21 15:19:45

DH always reckons that Gavin Williamson has got something on Johnson going back to his party whip days which is why he keeps him on.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 16-Jun-21 15:01:27

NotSpaghetti

Well now we know what Johnson thought of Hancock!

“totally f**** hopeless”

But he still inflicts him on the NHS.

It seems to me that we totter along in spite of our b….y useless politicians.

vegansrock Wed 16-Jun-21 15:00:17

If Johnson really thought that and still kept him on, doesn’t say much about his management skills does it?

NotSpaghetti Wed 16-Jun-21 14:39:38

Well now we know what Johnson thought of Hancock!

“totally f**** hopeless”

Lin52 Sat 12-Jun-21 16:51:51

Whitewavemark2

The noose is tightening, but not just for Hancock, I think Johnson will be a target as well.

Cummings has set up a new platform for more insider revelations, on Substack.

He said that he intends to use the platform to campaign for answers about the covid pandemic.

Hopefully Cummings too. He was the instigator of much of this, horrid little man, revenge is his game, hope it backfires on him.

Casdon Sat 12-Jun-21 16:15:53

They do cost a lot, but if they are accurate it does provide some reassurance, whereas it looks like the lateral flow tests aren’t accurate at all unfortunately.

Mollygo Sat 12-Jun-21 16:09:27

It’s the PCR tests that bother me. They cost so much. If want to go away as a family it adds a huge amount to the cost.

Casdon Sat 12-Jun-21 16:06:35

Thanks Mollygo, I thought you needed to have a reason to use them. My children went to a Wales match last weekend, and they were sent them in the post from the FAW, as well as the PCR tests, they had to submit negative results before they received their match tickets.

Mollygo Sat 12-Jun-21 16:01:03

Casdon, in the event that you’d like some, you can order them online or there are lots of collection points all over Wales.

Casdon Sat 12-Jun-21 14:09:39

We haven’t got lateral flow tests in use in Wales except for specific purposes via a Covid testing Centre, they aren’t distributed to anybody who wants them. I wondered why, maybe that’s the reason.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 12-Jun-21 08:18:20

America advised that the best place for these tests was in the trash