Jill Biden.

Unfortunately our self appointed mediator thinks otherwise Mollygo

Galaxy and maddyone, can you tell me why you like Melania please?
(Genuine question - I hate having to write that!) Thank you

Melanie Trump always looked totally elegant and stylish, but rather cold. I suspect she didn’t enjoy being First Lady, and her relationship with Donald …who knows. Underneath it all, I think she lacked confidence in the role, and it was covered up by a glacial attitude.

Remember at the Trump Inaugeration, when the Trumps met the Obamas on the White House steps, Melanie presented Michelle Obama with a gift, a traditional gesture apparently, Michelle took it in a very disdainful manner. Hardly conducive to making Melania feel welcome.

Not impressed with Michelle Obama after that.

Sorry, realise I have digressed from Jill Biden!

The gift was not a tradition. It was nice of Melania to do it but nobody had ever done that before, and Michelle Obama was taken by surprise.

*Calendargirl" I've only realised recently that 'digression' is so frowned upon on here!
I see it as a natural progression of the discussion.
But then, at times, discussion itself isn't exactly valued!

Nooo I meant I agreed with Varians opinion that the Biden's were preferable to the trumps

Oh! I was really interested aswell!
I thought that you had a super dooper post feminist theory (or something!)

Mollygo

*Yammy*, because that’s what we can do on GN-have views about people we don’t know, opinions about how they look, how they act, what they wear etc.
You did it yourself expressing your opinion on how you think Melanie Trump felt.
I’m not sure how saying someone looks good in what they’re wearing is judging them, but if I met them face to face, I’d offer a compliment or stay silent. I certainly wouldn’t laugh at them.

Just remember" You can't judge a book by its cover". All we are seeing are the covers. I didn't make remarks about Melania Trump because of her clothes but looking at her body language and facial expressions perhaps I was wrong in jumping to conclusions from them.

I’m amused by the comments on how wonderful Jill Biden looks (lots of help including plastic surgery, like a lot of Americans) Also that she’s so fit and active, including still working as a professor at the ripe old age of 70!

How people look is quite complicated I think. We all know some people photograph well, I think the saying is "the camera loves them." It doesn't love me, I had a photograph for something at work once and the photographer said he'd photographed pieces of wood that were more animated than me. It was harsh but true except if I have a baby in my arms, then I am smiling and relaxed presumably because I'm concentrating on the baby not fretting about the photograph. I can honestly say if you put two photos of me side by side one on my own and one with a baby you wouldn't think it was the same person.

Also some people seem to wear clothes well and others not. I heard an actress once who was talking about being a child star in Hollywood. She went to the studio school with Elizabeth Taylor and she said ET never had a hair out of place and at the end of the day looked exactly like she did at the start. I felt a bit sorry for her, thought she must have been drilled on her appearance and not allowed to play and then my son started school. Lovely little blonde girl went in at the start of the day looking like a model from a catalogue. At the end of the day she looked the same. Other kids have paint and dirt on them, white knee socks rolled down etc and again I assumed she must be a quiet little thing who didn't play. I volunteered at the school and soon saw she was a lively child who joined in with playground rough and tumble with the best of them. I assume she had the same bubble round her as Elizabeth Taylor.

I think Johnson hasn't got the bubble or maybe his dishevelled look is deliberate and I think that is what irritates a bit, the idea that he might deliberately look like he's never seen a comb and his suit isn't a great fit. Next to Biden, Macron, Trudeau to name a few he just doesn't look that smart, I think partly due to them being taller (I think) and slimmer and maybe partly due to being as good at photographs as me or maybe because he cultivates that look.

I don't like a lot of what he's done, his appearance isn't that big an issue.

Back to the original I think Jill Biden looked great and the camera does seem to love her.

theworriedwell I've just posted my theory about Bodger's hair on the thread about his son

I'll try to find it, GC are arriving any minute so I might disappear before I get there.

Found it! Yes I have noticed there seems to be alot of pink scalp shining through so you might be on to something.

Off topic but I noticed Prince Charles making a speech yesterday and he seems to have hung on to his hair quite well for a man who started losing it quite young if I remember correctly. He's certainly hanging on to it more than William.

Yes, I think it must be awful to loose your hair like that
William had beautiful, floppy blonde hair just like his mum's in his youth.

Callistemon

^If I were to make any comment on anyone's appearance, it would be B. Johnson and his ridiculous hair. He can afford a barber and comb for heaven's sake.^
I can too but my hair always ends up looking like Boris's (only longer).

It's just difficult hair, I could tame it in the morning but by 11am it's wild again.
Brush it, it's ok for 10 minutes.

My son met Boris once - BJ's aide asked if he'd like a photo and before answering BJ had put both hands to his head and ruffled up his hair .. this was about 10 years ago. I don't put the photo on display as I'm the absolute opposite of a fan of the bloke.

I loved Jill Biden's outfit for the inauguration, the white jacket with flower embroidery. She has a lovely sense of style regardless of age or build. Melania Trump had great style too but I felt (my opinion) she was a clothes horse rather than contributing anything meaningful to her post as First Lady. And those early soft porn photos of her - I know people have to make a living at whatever they are best at, but it's not classy, again, my opinion.

Michelle Obama was a breath of fresh air in the White House, intelligent and classy. She always looked confident in whatever she wore.

My son met Boris once - BJ's aide asked if he'd like a photo and before answering BJ had put both hands to his head and ruffled up his hair

I don't need to do that, LondonMzFitz!

Alegrias1

^How sad that admiring is being taken to mean judging.^
That what is meant as a compliment is construed as a criticism.

Well you've misunderstood the thread completely.

Would you like me to explain?

No it’s not the thread I have misunderstood, but some of the uncharitable comments on it - including, with all due respect, your patronising offer to explain it to me as if my intellectual capacity were somehow inferior.

At any rate, IMO she looks an awful lot nicer and more natural than Brigitte Macron, who is not far off the same age. I was going to use a certain phrase to describe BM but thought I’d better not, or I’d be accused of both ageism and sexism.
(But for anyone into crosswords, it’s 6, 7, 2, 4 letters.)

Mouton vetu en agneau?

? tres bien!

Dix sur dix!

Hair loss after Covid is a known problem, and Boris was very ill, so it's not surprising his hair is thinning.

MawBe

Alegrias1

How sad that admiring is being taken to mean judging.
That what is meant as a compliment is construed as a criticism.

Well you've misunderstood the thread completely.

Would you like me to explain?

No it’s not the thread I have misunderstood, but some of the uncharitable comments on it - including, with all due respect, your patronising offer to explain it to me as if my intellectual capacity were somehow inferior.

Well your comments do not represent what was said at all, and claiming that they do might be mistaken for trying to stir up an argument.

Just saying

Its not as if that phrase is particularly original is it?

Sparklefizz

Hair loss after Covid is a known problem, and Boris was very ill, so it's not surprising his hair is thinning.

I don't think it has changed much in the last year though, I thought it started before that. I have to confess I have lost all sense of time during the lockdowns so I might be totally wrong on that.