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Brexit is fast becoming a disaster

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Whitewavemark2 Fri 18-Jun-21 09:03:08

HMRC have published some figures to show that food and drink exports fell by 2bn in the first 3 months since Brexit.

Dairy was down a massive 90%? and there were losses across the board.

The figures show that rather it being a teething issue as the Tories would have us believe it is in fact structural and likely to continue unless there is some sort of move towards say the SM.

MayBee70 Tue 21-Sept-21 23:59:28

Johnson has been on the news a couple of times today saying how great it is that we’ve got some sort of deal with America about beef. And whiskey ( isn’t that Scottish?). So much for the great free trade deal we’d have with America if we left the EU. The one that Obama said was unlikely to happen but was then criticised for poking his nose in our political affairs. Interesting that, when Beth Rigby interviewed him, he constantly talked over her but, when interviewed by a man he didn’t interrupt him….( going well, isn’t it….)

MaizieD Sun 19-Sept-21 10:55:15

Another producer of an iconic British product, Stilton cheese, falls victim to Brexit

"We were promised the frictionless deal, that trade would continue exactly as it had before, and it was all complete and utter lies because what we’re seeing is the total and utter opposite of that," says Abigail's father, Hartington's director Simon Spurrell.

The company's European business, he adds, has been "completely and utterly wiped out". The new costs -- at £180 (€210) per certificate, per destination -- are unaffordable.

www.euronews.com/2021/09/17/cheesed-off-brexit-blues-wipe-out-uk-cheesemaker-s-european-business

MayBee70 Fri 17-Sept-21 16:42:24

That’s it. Thanks Maizie. I must write and thank him.

MaizieD Fri 17-Sept-21 16:33:23

Is this any help, Maybee?

twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1438104915054927876

MayBee70 Fri 17-Sept-21 16:11:59

Can anyone do a link to Sir Roger Gales question to the PM at PMQT on Wednesday where he points out that crops are rotting in the fields and we need workers from abroad to pick and deliver them. He makes out it is due to covid but is actually referring to brexit. The PM and the people around him were shell shocked by it! They really weren’t expecting it. Johnson said they had future plans but didn’t say what they were or what they were going to do to alleviate the problem now.

vegansrock Thu 16-Sept-21 21:13:37

EUs trade surplus with UK first 7 months 2021, ie post Brexit trade deal, was €82.1bn, notably up from same months in 2020, €56.7bn
Driven by 17.1% or €16bn fall in UK exports to EU.
Trade into EU from every other major partner up.
EU exports to UK grew by 6.2%, or €9bn.
So it s a plus for ten EU, a minus for U.K., surprise surprise!

Whitewavemark2 Thu 16-Sept-21 19:08:55

M&S closing in France and blaming Brexit.

There is an enormous amount of food being wasted in the South East and composted.

Lack of staff at all levels from pickers to packers etc.

Brexit would you believe.

Bloody disgraceful.

growstuff Thu 16-Sept-21 18:36:55

PippaZ

Chickens coming home to roost.

Now will those who voted to leave tell us what economic good they expected to come from it?

Chickens? Nah! Even they've gone home.

growstuff Thu 16-Sept-21 18:34:41

Dinahmo

It probably won't be long before someone comes on here to tell you that their supermarket shelves are groaning.

Apparently M & S have cancelled Christmas because they can't get the stuff.

Maybe they'll get the staff to dress up as the Grinch! hmm

Dinahmo Thu 16-Sept-21 18:07:14

It probably won't be long before someone comes on here to tell you that their supermarket shelves are groaning.

Apparently M & S have cancelled Christmas because they can't get the stuff.

varian Thu 16-Sept-21 16:58:32

The gloom of leading Brexiteers signals a dark outlook for “independent” Britain.

As supermarket shelves lie bare, even prominent Leave voters are beginning to doubt the wisdom of being outside the single market.

www.newstatesman.com/politics/brexit/2021/09/the-gloom-of-leading-brexiteers-signals-a-dark-outlook-for-independent-britain?utm_source=pardot&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=reg_users_16092021

Dinahmo Tue 07-Sept-21 15:20:16

That's been happening along the south coast for some while. The companies are ignoring the regulations and not a lot has been done about it.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 07-Sept-21 15:11:34

Just seen this ????

NEW: Supply chain problems lead to Government/EA lowering regulations controlling discharge of effluent, when sewer/water cos suffer “shortage of chemicals” used to treat effluent “because of the UKs new relationship with the EU, Covid or other supply chain failures”…

Anyone fancy a swim in the sea?

varian Mon 06-Sept-21 18:16:35

Telling it like it is.

brexitactually.quora.com/?__ni__=0&__nsrc__=4&__snid3__=25871897326&__tiids__=36541542

varian Wed 18-Aug-21 18:33:51

You are right DiamondLily the 50 million people living in the UK who never voted for this brexit nonsense which was imposed on us by corrupt dishonest politicians and the 17 million (guillible) people who were fooled into voting for it, now "just have to get on with it".

But that does not mean pretending that we now think that it was not the most destructive move ever made by our country during our lifetimes.

DiamondLily Fri 13-Aug-21 08:21:32

Brexit is hitting many industries hard - farmers and fishermen feel they’ve been thrown under the bus, and Northern Ireland is a shambles.

Haulage across the channel is mired down in rules and paperwork, affecting supplies both ways.

There’s a thread on here where a garden centre is having to give away its plants today because EU workers have gone home and they can’t employ anyone to replace them.

Many Brexiteers wanted it because they thought it would mean no immigration, but have now realised that not a thing has changed.

The government are conveniently blaming Covid for everything, but they will be found out in the end, Even a colossal and experienced con man like Johnson can only con so many for so long!`

A failure all round, but it’s too late now, we’ve just got to get on with it.

varian Wed 11-Aug-21 14:55:34

Brexit hit: City of London suffers £2.3 trillion derivatives loss in a single month

www.cityam.com/derivatives-hit-city-of-london-suffers-2-3-trillion-brexit-loss-in-a-single-month/

MayBee70 Wed 11-Aug-21 13:11:52

Does anyone know if other EU (also affected by covid) countries are having to use the army to deliver food?

Hetty58 Wed 11-Aug-21 09:04:06

Whitewavemark2, you didn't mention the surge in pre-Brexit trading, the worldwide pandemic - or the consumer move away from dairy products.

How can anyone manage to compare before and after when things have changed so drastically?

Whitewavemark2 Wed 11-Aug-21 09:02:30

? I posted this but it didn’t refresh to the top of active. So annoyingly I had to start another new thread.

How come it has refreshed now!!?

PippaZ Wed 11-Aug-21 08:58:28

Chickens coming home to roost.

Now will those who voted to leave tell us what economic good they expected to come from it?

Whitewavemark2 Wed 11-Aug-21 07:06:04

The emergency Brexit powers for lorries has been made permanent as the government expects further and more serious disruption.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 11-Aug-21 07:01:48

As an aside.

My milk isn’t being delivered because of shortage of drivers.

MaizieD Mon 09-Aug-21 10:04:25

North East Chamber of Commerce being studiously ignored by the government.

A letter to Boris Johnson sent a fortnight ago by James Ramsbotham called on the prime minister to save the north-east from the “damage being done to our economy” by Brexit and urged him to give it his “most urgent and personal attention”. Two weeks later, it remains unanswered.

Ramsbotham is the chief executive of the North East England Chamber of Commerce and speaks for thousands of businesses caught by the red tape and extra costs of complying with EU rules. In a recent survey, 38% of members said sales to Europe had fallen since January.

This is not teething problems,” he says. “Our ports face the EU and our region has the highest proportion of any exporting to the EU. It is vital that more barriers come down.”

Surveys by the chamber show that three-quarters of its members wanted to stay in the single market when asked about their personal views.

The same proportion reported they had been financially harmed by leaving the EU.

Whole article is worth reading.

amp.theguardian.com/politics/2021/aug/09/no-strategic-plan-brexit-james-ramsbotham-north-east-chamber-of-commerce?__twitter_impression=true

Whitewavemark2 Mon 09-Aug-21 06:56:27

Business chiefs are desperate to reach-negotiate entry into the SM.