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Brexit is fast becoming a disaster

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Whitewavemark2 Fri 18-Jun-21 09:03:08

HMRC have published some figures to show that food and drink exports fell by 2bn in the first 3 months since Brexit.

Dairy was down a massive 90%? and there were losses across the board.

The figures show that rather it being a teething issue as the Tories would have us believe it is in fact structural and likely to continue unless there is some sort of move towards say the SM.

Kali2 Wed 04-Aug-21 20:05:45

as for Tim Martin of Weathersoons at the other end of the scale.

GillT57 Wed 04-Aug-21 19:52:24

Kali2

Prue Leith now says it is 'wrong' that the Europeans are now not working in the restaurant/bar/hotel industry. She voted for it!

Alex Polizzi, of Forte family and The Hotel Inspector also voted leave and is desperate for staff. My heart bleeds.

Kali2 Wed 04-Aug-21 19:14:50

This recently from The Caterer

'Three-quarters of hotel and catering firms looking to recruit struggling to find staff'

A friend who is a Head Chef in a posh London restaurant says it is just a nightmare.

Kali2 Wed 04-Aug-21 19:11:32

Perhaps up-market places can afford to do so and pass on the cost to customers who can afford to pay the difference.

You can't deny the figures and the fact that a huge proportion have left and that, yes, even high end restaurants are struggling to get staff. As far as the much less glamorous and much more back-breaking jobs in agriculture, it is a disaster.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 04-Aug-21 19:07:05

Kali2

Prue Leith now says it is 'wrong' that the Europeans are now not working in the restaurant/bar/hotel industry. She voted for it!

Having spent three days in an upmarket hotel I can assure you that there are many mainland Europeans working in hospitality.

It’s down to the employers, pay enough and you will attract employees .

Kali2 Wed 04-Aug-21 19:06:09

We have been told again and again 'you lost, accept it and get over it' - surely that has to go both ways 'you won, accept it, own it and put up with it.'

Kali2 Wed 04-Aug-21 18:54:25

Prue Leith now says it is 'wrong' that the Europeans are now not working in the restaurant/bar/hotel industry. She voted for it!

MaizieD Wed 04-Aug-21 18:46:18

varian

"Surely no-one expected the EU to treat us as a non-EU country if we left the EU?"

remark by a leave voter

That really isn't a different political view. It's stupidity.

varian Wed 04-Aug-21 18:42:26

"Surely no-one expected the EU to treat us as a non-EU country if we left the EU?"

remark by a leave voter

MaizieD Wed 04-Aug-21 17:43:23

Is that really how you describe folks with differing political views to yours MaizieD

No, GG13. It's how I describe people who are too stupid to understand the rules of the EU and why they now apply to the UK.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 04-Aug-21 16:40:28

This leave voter does not like the term remoaners equally I do not like Brexshitters which has been applied to folks like me who voted leave.

Name calling is infantile.

Alegrias1 Wed 04-Aug-21 16:27:12

Us remoaners are all traitors to the country, didn't you know? We hate this country and we want it to fail in all ways.

Including the Olympics hmm

Go Denmark Greta

Kali2 Wed 04-Aug-21 16:23:16

Exactly, and what on earth has it go to do with the OP?

Rankle with whom? Why should it 'rankle' with anyone? What a nonsensical comment.

Greta Wed 04-Aug-21 16:16:50

^Despite all these problems we are still further ahead on the medals table than any other European country ( excluding Russia)
I’m sure that must really rankle some people, but you can’t dispute the facts^

It doesn't rankle with me, why should it? Well done Team GB. I just find comments like the above childish. One would expect that wealthy countries with larger populations would secure more medals. Seven medals so far for little Denmark with only 5 million inhabitants. In the UK we have more than 10 times their population and we have 40+ medals...
Does that mean that little Denmark is actually doing better than the UK?

Kali2 Wed 04-Aug-21 16:12:36

I actually have friends and family with different political opinions - and they are not idiotic. This dreadful woman is.

Greta Wed 04-Aug-21 15:42:59

idiot Brexit voting woman

Well, I think her comments were idiotic. People who voted remain have frequently been told to "stop complaining and get over it". Leave voters have made their bed and must now lie on it. Yes, it probably is a bit uncomfortable.

Alegrias1 Wed 04-Aug-21 15:37:48

She is a bit ...... let's say, confused.....

Its so blatantly against any common sense at all that I think she must be making it up for effect, surely?

GrannyGravy13 Wed 04-Aug-21 15:02:49

idiot Brexit voting woman

Is that really how you describe folks with differing political views to yours MaizieD ?

I have watched the clip by the way, however I am not in favour of calling others idiots as in my opinion it just leads to more divisions.

MaizieD Wed 04-Aug-21 14:50:53

Jaxjacky

Another issue now, ESTA type payment for EU entry.
inews.co.uk/news/brexit/uk-travel-europe-charge-next-year-2022-post-brexit-new-eu-rules-1133467

OMG!

I've just seen this clip from Jeremy Vine.

What bit of 'The UK is now a third country and must follow the EU's third country rules' is so hard for the idiotic Brexit voting woman to understand?

twitter.com/JeremyVineOn5/status/1422860567560196099

Jaxjacky Wed 04-Aug-21 14:19:51

Another issue now, ESTA type payment for EU entry.
inews.co.uk/news/brexit/uk-travel-europe-charge-next-year-2022-post-brexit-new-eu-rules-1133467

MayBee70 Wed 04-Aug-21 13:42:20

Let’s face it. Brexit is just a huge exercise in damage limitation isn’t it.

MaizieD Wed 04-Aug-21 12:08:31

GrannyGravy13

Whitewavemark2

You posted ^government has failed to devise a suitable replacement for the EU
safety standards system^

Which is untrue according to U.K. Health &
Safety

This from the story that the Independent (£) is running. (I googled a phrase and found it had been copied by many online news outlets)

Currently, there are markings on products throughout homes and offices in Britain and Europe. They can be spotted by the stamp “CE” which means they meet European health, safety and environmental standards.

These kitemarks must be policed by a government-approved testing body, and from January 1 2022 most products must be separately approved for a UK regime.

But the failure to secure recognition for the UK’s conformity assessment (UKCA) bodies has cut a slice off the UK’s advantage in international trade. The government’s own guidance said, “it was not the desired outcome” in talks.

Industry bodies, factories and conformity assessors told The Independent that there isn’t enough capacity, or no capacity at all for testing certain goods ahead of the January 1 2022 UKCA compliance deadline. It now risks a major falling out between business and government if, as feared, it derails British supply chains.

It could also hold up business’ recovery efforts in the wake of the pandemic.

Projects such as refurbishing commercial premises or building homes could be stopped in their tracks, because contractors are required to install products, such as fridges and fridge components which meet UK regulations.

These can only be found to comply with that contractual obligation if confirmed by the new UKCA regime, and some products are currently caught in backlogs.

postbrexitcompliance.com/2021/08/03/blog-brexit-red-tape-hits-uk-manufacturing-of-goods-from-cars-to-fridges-the-independent/

I would imagine that the HSE is not allowed to publish anything which might cast doubts on the sparkling success of Brexit...

Whitewavemark2 Wed 04-Aug-21 12:00:40

GrannyGravy13

Whitewavemark2

You posted ^government has failed to devise a suitable replacement for the EU
safety standards system^

Which is untrue according to U.K. Health &
Safety

Perhaps you could take it up with The Independent?

GrannyGravy13 Wed 04-Aug-21 11:53:47

Whitewavemark2

You posted ^government has failed to devise a suitable replacement for the EU
safety standards system^

Which is untrue according to U.K. Health &
Safety

GillT57 Wed 04-Aug-21 11:53:39

Yet again the sneaky inference that those of us who have our eyes open to the problems of Brexit are somehow unpatriotic. Nice bit of spin which turns statements about lack of HGV drivers into somehow not being supportive of the Olympians.