Brexit is fast becoming a disaster

There is a problem with hauliers but confusing Brexit with Covid doesn’t help to clarify the situation.

I'd tell the hauliers that, if I were you, lemon. I'm sure that they will be reassured.

Funnily enough, they don't seem to think that covid is the cause at all:

('Burnett' is Richard Burnett, RHA chief executive)

Burnett said: “Last year we worked very hard and very closely with government to provide critical workers with the ability to carry on. We are critical to keeping the nation fed, to keeping things moving and we did a fantastic job but this time there seems to have been no thought from government in terms of how we approach this in a practical way.

So they managed fine right through last year's pandemic before the end of transition, when we still had lots of EU drivers working in the UK

Burnett explained: “We have asked for the Home Office Shortage Occupation List to recognise the shortage of HGV drivers and apply for temporary fees in the same way that DEFRA have provided those exemptions for seasonal workers, but still a resounding no. And still stonewalling and blocking any progress in terms of actually resolving this problem in the short term.”

www.fleetpoint.org/logistics/supply-chain/uk-supply-chain-faces-collapse-in-two-to-three-weeks/

(The link is to the same article that was published in the Motor Transport magazine behind a paywall)

“Wonderfully better than predicted”?? I’d hate to know what the predictions were

“The Bank of England announced that voting to leave the European Union has cost Britain more than £440 million a week in lost growth since the referendum, thats £727 per second.”

GrannyGravy13

I have just quickly checked Health & Safety website.

They have a statement ^UK Health and Safety legislation is not affected by Brexit^

This is the best I can do for a link, but it might help

Brexit red tape hits UK manufacturing of goods from cars to fridges
January deadline is scuppering UK supply chains as they reel from the pandemic
independent.co.uk

There is a problem with hauliers but confusing Brexit with Covid doesn’t help to clarify the situation.
Certain food stuffs could well be missing from supermarket shelves for a time, but not essential items.

On the Olympic medals front, it’s laughable to suggest Brexit has caused any problems. More like Covid restrictions ( if it has at all.) The UK is doing wonderfully, better than predicted.

I have just quickly checked Health & Safety website.

They have a statement UK Health and Safety legislation is not affected by Brexit

Whitewavemark2

Another way the government has let us down

“Manufacturing is at risk from serious disruption because the government has failed to devise a suitable replacement for the EU’s safety standards system”

Source of this please?

As someone who has a business dealing with manufacturers in U.K. (as well as EU and further a field) this is news to us…

Another way the government has let us down

“Manufacturing is at risk from serious disruption because the government has failed to devise a suitable replacement for the EU’s safety standards system”

nanna8

One thing about the uk,though. It is a great survivor and I have absolutely no doubt it will survive this too in one way or another.

We haven't had food riots since the 18th C, nanna8. Just wondering how we will cope with food shortages now. Brits aren't particularly altruistic about fair shares for all.

there are still investments in business and manufacturing in the U.K. which some folks ignore and only post of job losses.

10,000 HGV drivers short. Doesn't look as though that's going to be solved soon.

Apparently the government is refusing to run a temporary visa scheme to attract back the EU drivers we've lost. We know all the problems in recruitment, training and remuneration. We've covered them all in an earlier thread.

RHA chief says supply chains are seriously affected and to expect real shortages soon.

This can only be caused by Brexit not covid. Last year, while we were still in 'transition' we had no problems with food supplies and deliveries, despite covid.

MerylStreep

MayBee70

Interesting mention of brexit just now on the BBC Olympic coverage. Someone (a coach ?) said that along with covid, brexit had caused problems to the team in the run up to the Olympics due to the travel restrictions brexit had caused.

Despite all these problems we are still further ahead on the medals table than any other European country ( excluding Russia)
I’m sure that must really rankle some people, but you can’t dispute the facts. Go uk ???

Oh dear- we were discussing just that last night with OH, and wondered when the Brexiters were going to start saying just this - here we go - doh!

One thing about the uk,though. It is a great survivor and I have absolutely no doubt it will survive this too in one way or another.

Fair enough GG13, I'm not criticising but I do think it's misleading.

Of course firms will continue to thrive. But how many are not thriving, and how many aren't even considering the UK for investment?

Its a bit like losing a sixpence and finding a thru'penny bit.

(Showing my age there)

Alegrias1

I was thinking about the other companies you listed in the attachment as well GG13

It really did strike me that we are seeing lists of companies that are expanding, but would the list have been longer without Brexit? We'll never know.

Of course you are correct on that Alegrias1

I am not clapping my hands in glee at the U.K.- EU Brexit agreement, however there are still investments in business and manufacturing in the U.K. which some folks ignore and only post of job losses.

I was thinking about the other companies you listed in the attachment as well GG13

It really did strike me that we are seeing lists of companies that are expanding, but would the list have been longer without Brexit? We'll never know.

Alegrias1

GrannyGravy13

Along with 700 million £ new film studios to be built in Hertfordshire which will provide 4,500 jobs.

What would the numbers have been without Brexit?

We'll never know......

As it’s an American Company, and this will be there first studio complex outside of the USA, I doubt that Brexit has anything to do with it.

Link if it is possible to read

Road Hauliers are saying that the food supply chain is 2-3 weeks away from total collapse.

I wonder why i5 isn’t on the BBC news?

GrannyGravy13

Along with 700 million £ new film studios to be built in Hertfordshire which will provide 4,500 jobs.

What would the numbers have been without Brexit?

We'll never know......

JenniferEccles

Meanwhile those of us who like to look for the positives for our country would have been delighted to read that the International Monetary Fund has upgraded our predicted growth from 5.3 per cent to 7, which means we are set to grow as fast as the US and faster than any other advanced economy.

Ironically the IMF had previously predicted a recession if the country voted for Brexit!

The successful vaccine rollout has been credited with aiding the swift economic recovery, and said that there was ‘a huge opportunity to push further’

There, isn’t that better than the incessant concentration on negativity seen on here?

I mentioned this either above or on another thread, can't remember where. The UK economy fell of a cliff last year and the forecast growth will not even get us back to where we were at the start of 2020.

The same is not true of a number of countries in the EU - Germany for instance will have a larger economy by the end of 2021 than it did at the start of 2020.

There, isn't that better than the constant misinterpretation of numbers seen on here?

MayBee70

Interesting mention of brexit just now on the BBC Olympic coverage. Someone (a coach ?) said that along with covid, brexit had caused problems to the team in the run up to the Olympics due to the travel restrictions brexit had caused.

Despite all these problems we are still further ahead on the medals table than any other European country ( excluding Russia)
I’m sure that must really rankle some people, but you can’t dispute the facts. Go uk ???

Along with 700 million £ new film studios to be built in Hertfordshire which will provide 4,500 jobs.

Meanwhile those of us who like to look for the positives for our country would have been delighted to read that the International Monetary Fund has upgraded our predicted growth from 5.3 per cent to 7, which means we are set to grow as fast as the US and faster than any other advanced economy.

Ironically the IMF had previously predicted a recession if the country voted for Brexit!

The successful vaccine rollout has been credited with aiding the swift economic recovery, and said that there was ‘a huge opportunity to push further’

There, isn’t that better than the incessant concentration on negativity seen on here?

Serious shortage of HGV drivers

brexitactually.quora.com/?__nsrc__=4&__snid3__=24517383914

Interesting mention of brexit just now on the BBC Olympic coverage. Someone (a coach ?) said that along with covid, brexit had caused problems to the team in the run up to the Olympics due to the travel restrictions brexit had caused.

... now Glaxo.