Brexit is fast becoming a disaster

"It’s been five years since the morning that we woke up to the referendum result. Five years since we decided something must be done - which was exactly why we set up Best for Britain.

In that time we've taken the government to court (twice!), we've held two prime ministers to account, and successfully campaigned to prevent some of the most damaging aspects of Brexit that could have been, were it not for people like you speaking out alongside us.

But as you know, the fight is far from over. Five years on Best for Britain is still working to make sure negotiators like Lord Frost keep to their word, and do what is right for our country - even if we never wanted to leave in the first place.

We still stand for openness and European cooperation. And we still believe an internationalist voice is needed in British politics."

Best for Britain

www.bestforbritain.org/add_my_name_brussels

"Five years ago today, Britons voted in a referendum that was meant to bring certainty to the U.K.’s unsettled relationship with its European neighbors, but it most certainly did not"

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/5-years-after-brexit-vote-divided-uk-still-feels-shockwaves-brexit-european-union-britons-boris-johnson-london-b1871052.html

Five years on, we are a more divided society than ever. Party loyalties are weaker than the division between Leavers and Remainers.

Manufacturing of what exactly. Other surveys show exports down 60%.

GrannyGravy13

U.K. manufacturing output volumes in the three months to June grew at the fastest pace on record with order books at their strongest in over 30 years.

Source CBI’s Industrial Trends Survey

I wonder how much of that is a response to a) covid slowdown, b) for the internal market c) for export?

U.K. manufacturing output volumes in the three months to June grew at the fastest pace on record with order books at their strongest in over 30 years.

Source CBI’s Industrial Trends Survey

varian

Viewing of UK tv programs reduced in EU

.https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jun/22/lord-frost-we-cant-stop-eu-cutting-amount-of-uk-content-on-european-tv

Here's a live link:

www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jun/22/lord-frost-we-cant-stop-eu-cutting-amount-of-uk-content-on-european-tv

Viewing of UK tv programs reduced in EU

.https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jun/22/lord-frost-we-cant-stop-eu-cutting-amount-of-uk-content-on-european-tv

Dinahmo

Callistemon and GG13

I referred to Urmstongran purely because I would be interested in her response to the latest news about Lord Frost, which has been brought into the discussion above. She has mentioned on many occasions that she has put her faith in him and his abilities as a negotiator.

There is no obligation to post a response and since she is on holiday (which I didn't know) there is little likelihood of a reply to my question.

My comment was not intended to be sarcastic and nor is it.

In that case, I apologise Dinahmo.
Different posters have different posting styles, of course.

MawBe

Biba70 also used to be a prolific poster on the Politics treads, especially those concerning Brexit- should her absence likewise be commented on ?

Could be that’s nobody’s interested.

Alegrias1

Bossyrossy

Isn’t there just one Brexit supporter on GN who can tell us the benefits of having left the EU?

I think they've all given up. Because we keep unreasonably asking what the benefits are.

We have to wait and see, remember?

ah and be positive, and trust our wonderful trustworthy PM and Government

of course

No they can’t because there aren’t any measurable benefits and they will accuse you of bullying to keep asking. Frost is rapidly being shown to be as dim and useless as the other incompetents in government, btw he is one of the unelected elite Brexiteers were suppose to want to get rid of. The EU have maintained their position despite the nasty name calling and personal attacks on the likes of Angela Merkel and Michel Barnier by the UK media and VL government.

There are no benefits! Of course there isn’t.

Bossyrossy

Isn’t there just one Brexit supporter on GN who can tell us the benefits of having left the EU?

I think they've all given up. Because we keep unreasonably asking what the benefits are.

We have to wait and see, remember?

Many of us have been asking, again and some more - but no- no reply, not one.

Isn’t there just one Brexit supporter on GN who can tell us the benefits of having left the EU?

Telling it like it is

twitter.com/hashtag/JohnKanaka?src=hashtag_click

There’s b*gger all to be done about it now, but I personally hope for a reconsideration in a couple of decades and a choice to rejoin our partners in Europe.

I am lucky enough not to be too affected by rising food prices but that worries me very much for those who are struggling to feed themselves and their children.

UK food and drink exports to the EU almost halve in first quarter

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57518910

Sorry GG13 I had not trawled all the way back to the start of the thread to look for Urmstongran

Callistemon and GG13

I referred to Urmstongran purely because I would be interested in her response to the latest news about Lord Frost, which has been brought into the discussion above. She has mentioned on many occasions that she has put her faith in him and his abilities as a negotiator.

There is no obligation to post a response and since she is on holiday (which I didn't know) there is little likelihood of a reply to my question.

My comment was not intended to be sarcastic and nor is it.

Varian Sorry but I think it’s exceptionally bad form to discuss a poster who is not involved with a thread.

OMG - if only, if only someone had warned us then we wouldn't be in this mess!

Oh hang on, they did and a surprise it is not!

Message deleted by Gransnet. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

Perhaps Urmonstongran is just very much missed for her input then.
She was one of the few remaining posters to offer a different viewpoint as so many have gone.

Callistemon

GrannyGravy13

Dinahmo

I await comments from Urmstongrand with interest as Frost is, or maybe was, one of her heros.

Urmstongran is not on this thread, why involve her?

Exactly.

It was indeed Dinahmo