Brexit is fast becoming a disaster

I await comments from Urmstongrand with interest as Frost is, or maybe was, one of her heros.

This in the Guardian today:

Lord Frost:
”I said last week at a speech at another event that I think those who campaigned for leave would have been surprised to think that the relationship was as relatively difficult as it is now.
It’s not something that we want. We do think the sooner we can move beyond the settling down process, the better. But we probably have to let it work through.”^

Are we now saying that vote leave campaigners were not honest; that they did not spell it out that the process would be extremely difficult and damaging? We have the right to be more than surprised. After all leaving the EU was going to be the easiest thing in the world.

Yes, very noticeable gaps in the supermarket shelves over the past couple of weeks, but I expect someone will be along in a minute to tell me that I need to narrow my expectations, that we 'managed in the war' and all we need to do is grow our own.

Lowest inward investment in a decade.

The U.K. is slowly but surely going down the pan.

It needs to stop now.

Just been shopping in Sainsbury’s - lots of empty shelves.

“We are reporting on supply chain crisis, food shortages, labour shortages, red tape ruin and many of our own industries facing existential threat while Brexiters still insist this is no big deal and worth it.”

Hello? Are my posts showing or not? Hello?

Not poppies. Not wreaths.

Umbrellas. Mugs. Scarves. Brooches.

Not poppies. NOT POPPIES.

dragonfly46

As I said somewhere else Alegrias I lived in Europe for 18 years and nowhere did I see the British Legion selling poppies. The only place I have heard of it is near the war graves in Normandy.

You heard correctly, dragonfly. I was able to buy poppies in Normandy to lay on the grave of an ancestor on the 100th anniversary of his death. There were many poppy wreaths in the cemetery presumably bought in the British Legion shop where I got mine but seems that now they will no longer be on sale.

theworriedwell

dragonfly46

As I said somewhere else Alegrias I lived in Europe for 18 years and nowhere did I see the British Legion selling poppies. The only place I have heard of it is near the war graves in Normandy.

So they were selling poppies in Europe and now they aren't.

No, Its nothing to do with poppies. Let's stop talking about poppies. No more poppy talk.

Online sales of products to support the British Legion.

Sometimes there are pictures of poppies. Sometimes the brooches are shaped like poppies. Not poppies.

Indeed Mumofmadboys, my DD and partner were on a walking break near Dovedale last weekend and the lovely staff at the hotel they were staying in were run ragged, only 3 waiting staff in the restaurant running bar and food, and most seemed to be willing but untrained.

dragonfly46

As I said somewhere else Alegrias I lived in Europe for 18 years and nowhere did I see the British Legion selling poppies. The only place I have heard of it is near the war graves in Normandy.

So they were selling poppies in Europe and now they aren't.

Ed Davey, responding last December to our "trade deal" with the EU sais-

"This is not really a trade deal at all; it is a loss of trade deal. It is the first trade deal in history to put up barriers to trade. Is that really the Government’s answer to British businesses fearing for their futures and British workers fearing for their jobs? We were told that leaving the EU would cut red tape, but the deal represents the biggest increase in red tape in British history, with 23 new committees to oversee this new trade bureaucracy, 50,000 new customs officials and 400 million new forms. Some analysts estimate the cost of this new red-tape burden for British business at over £20 billion every year. This is not the frictionless trade that the Prime Minister promised."

hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2020-12-30/debates/9E132CEF-83CA-40BA-B8B4-A7127A968B68/details#contribution-FB564AFC-7024-42B5-92C2-AAAC47460A88

It did not take long for that damage to our trade and our economy to become obvious. A disatrous 47% reduction in our exports to the EU.

The Lake District are having huge problems recruiting enough people in the hospitality industry post Brexit. The care industry is also going to struggle. What a mess it all is , on so many levels.

You are welcome kali2, I was going to say more but decided to keep my powder dry.

Wonderful to see that we can all have a good giggle about this disaster. I mean, it gets to a stage when it is just so bad- you just have to survive with humour. Thanks Gill

Ah vegansrock now we know why we haven't heard from the Brexit cheerleaders on GN today. They are all preparing their applications for Director of Brexit Opportunities.

I saw that vegansrock. The phrase "you couldn't make it up ... but the Tories just did" is beginning to get a bit worn out, isn't it? Perhaps the "Brexiteers" in the government are beginning to see what they have done and are intent on pushing it onto some poor civil servant.

Brexit will put damage upon damage of the virus and the ones who will feel it most will often be those who voted for it.

LOL you did make me giggle there but it is so not funny hey.

I put this on the other thread, but think it’s more appropriate here- I see the government is advertising for a “Director of Brexit Opportunities” - implying they either have to find some opportunities - or make some up - or maybe just try to gloss over the fact that there aren’t any and be good at PR spin. Must have zero knowledge of economics, own a load of flags, have a degree in straw clutching.

At one time we were told that there were certain taboo subjects which could not be discussed in polite society - sex, politics and religion.

It now seems that the most taboo subject is brexit.

Where I live in France, a part that was occupied during the war, there are still divisions. Those families who had members of the resistance and those that collaborated. And the war ended nearly 80 years ago.

I'm not saying that the divisions over Brexit will last as long - nobody has died because of Brexit but the lives of thousands of people have been adversely affected and it will take a long time before they all recover from it.

The Leave voters I have spoken to over the last few years are, I suspect, somewhat sheepish about the fact that they caused brexit, but their attitude seems to be that it is "done" and we shouldn't complain about it or even talk about it because it can't be changed.

It is not by any means "done" but enough of it has been done for the damaging effects to be obvious to all but those who keep their heads firmly in the sand.

Year by year we will see more of it being "done" and there are no indications whatsoever that any of it will be good.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/19/brexit-purity-breaking-up-union-ask-people-of-belfast

Great article in the Guardian, spot on

Brexit is the plague that will still be infecting Britain when Covid has gone. It spreads unnoticed because neither government nor opposition shows the smallest interest in finding a vaccine. The public doesn’t blame them because it is sick of hearing about the sickness. I understand why. I am sick of writing about it. But given that the Labour party won’t hold our leaders to account, it remains a matter of democratic propriety to remind voters that the Brexit movement lied to them.

Depends how! Nought so blind ...

Where is the divide, Kali2 We're not living in a world where we all have to think the same. Some people voted for Brexit, some didn't, some Conservative, others Labour, Lib Dem, SDP.Footballers have their own fans. And so it goes on. This proves that we have different opinions. Which is a good thing!