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Brexit is fast becoming a disaster

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Whitewavemark2 Fri 18-Jun-21 09:03:08

HMRC have published some figures to show that food and drink exports fell by 2bn in the first 3 months since Brexit.

Dairy was down a massive 90%? and there were losses across the board.

The figures show that rather it being a teething issue as the Tories would have us believe it is in fact structural and likely to continue unless there is some sort of move towards say the SM.

nanna8 Sat 26-Jun-21 09:37:26

Sydney is now under hard lockdown for 2 weeks and this affects 6 million people. The vaccine rollout here is really slow due to incompetence and poor government and scare mongering in the press. Down where I live in Victoria we are relatively free but, as it is school holidays, it is only a matter of time. Victoria has already had 4 lockdowns, we have really had enough. Of course the panic buying has started up there ( what is it with toilet rolls?).

GrannyGravy13 Sat 26-Jun-21 13:11:39

From Joe Barnes Brussels Correspondent

And they lectured us on standards! EU set to lift ban on grim farming method - leaked memo

As a result of the shift, cheap pig protein could be fed to chickens to ensure European farmers aren’t undercut by lower standards outside the bloc. The change is expected to come in force in August despite last-ditch attempts by MEPs led by the Greens to scrap the policy

These practices were brought in during the BSE crisis, all member states apart from France and Ireland endorsed this new amendment to farming laws.

Alegrias1 Sat 26-Jun-21 13:36:54

Joe Barnes Brussels Correspondent...

...for the Express.

Kali2 Sat 26-Jun-21 14:48:44

According to the Telegraph, Johnson intends to tell the EU that the Brexit agreement never made sense. !!!

Well, most of us knew - so if he didn't know- what does this say about him. Again, 2 choices only- either he was totally dishonest and always intended to renege, or he is even more stupid than I thought. Which is it?

MaizieD Sat 26-Jun-21 15:37:26

GrannyGravy13

From Joe Barnes Brussels Correspondent

And they lectured us on standards! EU set to lift ban on grim farming method - leaked memo

As a result of the shift, cheap pig protein could be fed to chickens to ensure European farmers aren’t undercut by lower standards outside the bloc. The change is expected to come in force in August despite last-ditch attempts by MEPs led by the Greens to scrap the policy

These practices were brought in during the BSE crisis, all member states apart from France and Ireland endorsed this new amendment to farming laws.

Chickens are carnivorous (mine ate all the snails and slugs I threw into their run...), pig meat didn't carry BSE (clue, it's Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy) Does it now?

Where is the problem?

MaizieD Sat 26-Jun-21 15:39:15

According to the Telegraph, Johnson intends to tell the EU that the Brexit agreement never made sense. !!!

Why the F8ck did he sign it then? And shout about how wonderful it was?

How do people swallow this garbage?

Petera Sat 26-Jun-21 16:20:40

varian

lemongrove

It’s at such an early stage that it’s pointless to discuss how well Brexit is going.It was to be expected that unravelling 40 years worth of rules and regulations and making new trade deals ( as well as maintaining trade with the EU countries) would be a slow process.

Jacob Rees Mogg told us it would be fifty years before we could see any benefit from brexit.

I don't know how old you are lemon but as most GNetters are over 50 I'm guessing that you might be unlikely to see whether you were right or wrong. The evidence so far points to you being wrong to have voted for brexit. Very very wrong.

I know that people understand that they shouldn't take Rees Mogg seriously, but do you remember him saying that we shouldn't leave the EU because we hadn't been in it for fifty years and we should wait to see the benefit?

No? I didn't think so.

varian Sat 26-Jun-21 16:57:46

I don't remember that Petera but I do remember him saying that there should be a second referendum after the "deal" had been negotiated. One of the few things he's said that I actually agreed with

Katie59 Sat 26-Jun-21 18:25:10

Well here is what he actually said
The benefits of Brexit could take 50 yrs

www.youtube.com/watch?v=My4UM_zCpk0

lemongrove Sat 26-Jun-21 21:47:17

Petera he didn’t say what you say he did......but what Katie
Says.
Whatever... I never take anything he says seriously.

Alegrias1 Sat 26-Jun-21 21:59:22

I think Petera knows he didn't say that Lemongrove.

That's the point.

MayBee70 Sat 26-Jun-21 22:14:31

lemongrove

Petera he didn’t say what you say he did......but what Katie
Says.
Whatever... I never take anything he says seriously.

He’s one of the people running this country. Shouldn’t we be able to take seriously what people in positions like that say? What sort of joke does that make of government?

Whitewavemark2 Sun 27-Jun-21 01:41:26

We don’t have to go back very far to remember when we were proud of Britain, when we were a valued and useful neighbour and held the olympics which were an outstanding success.

The Tories have completely wrecked it all.

Katie59 Sun 27-Jun-21 07:58:28

JRM and his hedge fund cronies have made a lot of money out of Brexit, for the rest of us that “could take 50 yrs to see the benefit”. Or maybe there will be no benefit and we will end up a lot worse off, there are now a lot of restrictions now on trade with the EU. Trade benefits with other countries will need to come quickly, I hope it does although that is very uncertain at present.

varian Sun 27-Jun-21 18:23:07

We were once highly respected but it didn't take long for the Vote Leave government to reduce us to the laughing stock of the world.

Our national credibilty is completely shot. If we aver attempt to do any trade deals with any other nation in the world, they will have us over a barrel because they all know that Brexit Britain = Desperate Britain.

Mamie Sun 27-Jun-21 19:29:41

Not Brexit, but good to see Le Pen doing so badly in the regional elections. She failed to win a single region.

MayBee70 Sun 27-Jun-21 19:32:21

That’s cheered me up Mamie. Thanks for that!

varian Sun 27-Jun-21 19:33:25

It is relevant to Brexit Mamie

Back in 2016 the only foreign politicians who supported Brexit were Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump and Marine Le Pen.

MayBee70 Sun 27-Jun-21 19:34:47

Whitewavemark2

We don’t have to go back very far to remember when we were proud of Britain, when we were a valued and useful neighbour and held the olympics which were an outstanding success.

The Tories have completely wrecked it all.

I’ll never forget those Olympics. Two of the best weeks of my life. Even the weather was good. The downside is that Johnson basked in the glory of it and look what it led to.

Mamie Sun 27-Jun-21 19:36:49

Yes she did Varian but even she has backed off recently.

varian Mon 28-Jun-21 00:58:33

Will Hutton describes the consequences of the lies that led to brexit

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/27/case-for-brexit-built-on-lies-five-years-later-deceit-is-routine-in-our-politics

varian Mon 28-Jun-21 19:46:57

Five years on we have learned a lot about brexit

www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit-news/westminster-news/brexit-referendum-five-years-on-8091988

Kali2 Mon 28-Jun-21 20:33:12

varian

It is relevant to Brexit Mamie

Back in 2016 the only foreign politicians who supported Brexit were Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump and Marine Le Pen.

relevant too as Marine Lepen stated after Brexit that the EU would fall apart and that it would lead to a quick Frexit. It is now clear that the Brexit debacle and the terrible consequences for UK, has united Europe better than anything else could have done. A clear rejection of the far right in France is very indicative of that.

MerylStreep Mon 28-Jun-21 20:47:54

Do some of you here, when in a previous life, remember your predictions on Nissan in Sunderland. I won’t print the names but you know who you are.
Well it seems you couldn’t have been more wrong.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/nissan-plans-to-build-electric-car-battery-gigafactory-in-sunderland-chsrfgc5t

MaizieD Mon 28-Jun-21 21:03:53

MerylStreep

Do some of you here, when in a previous life, remember your predictions on Nissan in Sunderland. I won’t print the names but you know who you are.
Well it seems you couldn’t have been more wrong.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/nissan-plans-to-build-electric-car-battery-gigafactory-in-sunderland-chsrfgc5t

Very late to the party, MerylStreep. That was flagged up ages ago.