Brexit is fast becoming a disaster

Sorry, the quote in my last post was not from Growstuff (really sorry) but Urmstongran.

As an aside.

NI is not short of CO2.

Why?

Because. It is part of the single market.

Growstuff Americans, and Democrats in particular, do not understand that the EU is not a democratic institution like the United States, but is instead run by unelected officials.

Who are you to tell the American's what they "do not understand"? And why do you think that Americans, Democrats or diabolical madman need to understand your made up truths. They will know all they need to know about the EU - there will be some good brains in their administration, just as there is in the EU's.

All they need to know is we no longer have the power of a large block behind us and are, once again, a small country. That and the fact that we are run by a liar who has still to realise that administrative incompetence isn't funny, breaking promises isn't funny, and the belief of personal superiority in relation to voters was never funny.

Quite frankly if Brexit had turned out exactly as promised - remember all those lies,- I, and I suspect many others would now be accepting the inevitable. But it hasn’t has it. Brexit is a slow drip drip to disaster. There is absolutely nothing, zero, zilch of benefit to the U.K. and in fact quite the opposite. This time next year it will becoming clear that businesses and the economy is suffering through our inability to trade on a level
playing field with Europe and the RoW.

GrannyGravy13

Scones

Are people who voted Brexit are happy with the way things are going?

Not particularly, but then again I guess nobody factored in a worldwide pandemic.

And it is such a wonderful excuse isn't it. I wonder how Johnson would cope if he hadn't got covid to blame.

Didn’t help having how many elections during that time? Maybe Johnson (aka Mr Brexit) should have stood for leader when Cameron resigned instead of running away.

eazybee

It would have been very different if the remainers hadn't spent three years trying to overturn a democratic vote; there would have been three years to sort agreements and arrangements out before covid struck.
As it is, Brexit has been in existence for six months.

Talk about victim blaming.

I’ve found a brexit bonus. There’s going to be a reduction in the number of fireworks that people can get so, hopefully bonfire night won’t last for 3 months and all the dogs and cats that are terrified will not have to endure it for so long….

Blame blame blame
That's the name of the game
When chips are down
Don't trust the clown
He's only interested in fame

GrannyGravy13

Scones

Are people who voted Brexit are happy with the way things are going?

Not particularly, but then again I guess nobody factored in a worldwide pandemic.

Hahaha! Covid isn't to blame for most of the state this country is in. It's a convenient scapegoat.

eazybee

It would have been very different if the remainers hadn't spent three years trying to overturn a democratic vote; there would have been three years to sort agreements and arrangements out before covid struck.
As it is, Brexit has been in existence for six months.

If Brexit were all it was cracked up to be nothing, those who didn't think leaving was a great idea, would matter.

If the vote had been beyond reproach, then no one could have put forward the strong arguments they did that it was undemocratic.

For those who lose representation in a vote to agree, they need to believe it was democratic. I won't rehearse the arguments but the referendum wasn't democratic. We can see this every day when the Brexiteers promises, which were called out as lies at the time, are proving to be just that.

Maudi

We've left people get over it

Not really helpful or contributing to the debate.

We've left people get over it

Scones

Are people who voted Brexit are happy with the way things are going?

Not particularly, but then again I guess nobody factored in a worldwide pandemic.

Of course they will never admit anything negative about Brexit it’s all teething. problems, bumps in the road, all the fault of the EU etc etc. plus we’ve got all those lovely freedoms to pollute our rivers , give Tory donors heaps of taxpayers dosh, strike great trade deals with the likes of the Faroe Islands, get rid of all those fruit pickers, nurses and lorry drivers pinching our jobs …….

Are people who voted Brexit are happy with the way things are going?

You’ll get the usual sovereignty, unelected bureaucrats, giving them loads of money we could spend on NHS, all the other countries are envious of us, it’s all about to collapse (5 years ago) etc No actual benefits natch.

GrannyGravy13

Those who voted remain have either got short or selective memories.

During my relatively short time on GN (approximately four years) I have seen posters who voted leave give their reasons over and over again, including myself.

Not asking for reasons, asking for benefits. There is a massive difference.

To be fair, I do think that Brexiters have given the reasons why they voted to Leave.

One poster gave me a long and heartfelt explanation of why she voted Leave, just this week.

Trouble was, it wasn't based on reality or facts in any way.

GrannyGravy13

Those who voted remain have either got short or selective memories.

During my relatively short time on GN (approximately four years) I have seen posters who voted leave give their reasons over and over again, including myself.

Usually those posters gave opinions rather than facts I'm afraid.

Well, having given you reasons can you now explain the benefits of brexit, thus far?

Those who voted remain have either got short or selective memories.

During my relatively short time on GN (approximately four years) I have seen posters who voted leave give their reasons over and over again, including myself.

They never answer questions anyway, so I don’t think it matters tbh. They don’t have any answers.

The most vital question that they have never answered is 'What advantages are there to Brexit?'

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Whitewavemark2

Cloth-eared = Brexiters

I find that insulting people is not the best way to engage anyone in debate or get them to answer any questions posed.

They never answer questions anyway, so I don’t think it matters tbh. They don’t have any answers.

There is MayBee70 but if any of us use it we'll get banned.