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Is this a joke, or something?

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MaizieD Tue 22-Jun-21 21:09:47

This is trending on twitter this evening.

NEW: The government is urging children to sing this song on June 25

follow the link for the video..

twitter.com/alexmarr98/status/1407386244787671043

Not quite sure what the significance of 25th June is.

Or if this is bona fide...

3nanny6 Wed 23-Jun-21 11:26:59

Is this a campaign song for Boris? we are not one nation we are
four nations. We are a divided U.K. Will this song be sung in Scotland ? I heard a woman talking about it at the shops her view was Nay Way, Nay Chance. said in her Scottish accent.

Make every child in U.K equal give a good education to all
there are children going without food at home so sort that out.
Make inclusive opportunities to every child and then perhaps we are starting to do something about the future of the nations children.

moggie57 Wed 23-Jun-21 11:29:54

you got another link . i dont have twitter..... maybe thats it a TWIT-ER

MaggieMay69 Wed 23-Jun-21 11:37:31

Oooh wonderful, next the kids will have to sign up to the Boris Youth.

This song won't bring people together, thats not what its truly intended for...this is a snarky way to bring yet more division, its all the Tories know how to do, supported by one of the nastier ones too, Andrea Jenkyns.
I love how they can't feed the starving kids of our Country without a footballer telling them how, but yet we're all 'in this together'.
Rubbish, fascist nonsense.

Kalu Wed 23-Jun-21 11:45:54

Nothing has changed, yet! Great Britain and Northern Ireland

GB is the collective definition of 3 nations.
UK which is more widely used, includes all 4 nations. We’re you not taught this at school?

So annoying isn’t it, when people only post initialisms/abréviations/acronyms.

Four Nations One United Kingdom. ?

3nanny6 Wed 23-Jun-21 11:46:50

There is a line "We have opened our doors, and we've widened our shores"
I think we have tightened our doors and closed all our shores
in fact that is exactly what we have done.
Perhaps that is all we can do but for me distressed children arriving on our shores some of them without parents and then turned away from our country is downright inhumane to me.
Still that's us Great Bloody Britain.

MaizieD Wed 23-Jun-21 11:48:37

I am not arguing with you or anyone, just posting my opinion.

Apologies, GG13. I thought this was a discussion forum.

PippaZ Wed 23-Jun-21 12:05:34

Kalu

Nothing has changed, yet! Great Britain and Northern Ireland

GB is the collective definition of 3 nations.
UK which is more widely used, includes all 4 nations. We’re you not taught this at school?

So annoying isn’t it, when people only post initialisms/abréviations/acronyms.

Four Nations One United Kingdom. ?

I think you misunderstand. Great Britain is a geographical definition and only geographical not a "collective".

The United Kingdom is a political term defining a group of counties who have, so far, agreed to work as one with a shared head of state and parliament. This is what I was taught in school and as far as I can see is still true today.

Thank you for the translation of FNOUK. Every day is a school day thankfully.

Callistemon Wed 23-Jun-21 12:19:39

Kalu

Great Britain/Britain is the official collective name of England, Scotland and Wales. This does not include Northern Ireland, which is part of the UK.

FNOUK? Only sung by those school children who have not yet broken up for end of term??

Feeling pedantic today. ?

grin

I was, too.

The British Isles:
British Isles, group of islands off the northwestern coast of Europe. The group consists of two main islands, Great Britain and Ireland, and numerous smaller islands and island groups, including the Hebrides, the Shetland Islands, the Orkney Islands, the Isles of Scilly, and the Isle of Man. Some also include the Channel Islands in this grouping.

Great Britain:
Great Britain is an island separated from the European mainland by the English Channel and North Sea. It comprises the nations of England, Scotland and Wales.

United Kingdom:
United Kingdom, island country located off the northwestern coast of mainland Europe. The United Kingdom comprises the whole of the island of Great Britain—which contains England, Wales, and Scotland—as well as the northern portion of the island of Ireland. The name Britain is sometimes used to refer to the United Kingdom as a whole.

Britannica

Britain might seem an appropriate term though, as occasionally we don't seem very united.
Which brings us back to the song.

PippaZ Wed 23-Jun-21 12:32:19

I am not sure how that differs from what I said other than by adding in The British Isles which is also a geographical definition Callistemon [Wed 23-Jun-21 12:19:39].

The point is that singing "We are one Britain" or going on at length about Great British this, that and the other doesn't make sense. There is no political agreement for "Great Britain" to act as one; it comprises, geographically, three separate countries. The only time those countries come together politically is as the United Kingdom but that doesn't suit Mr Johnson - presumably, it's not catchy enough - so let's not worry about agreements between countries we will use it anyway - even if it's politically incomprehensible.

lemongrove Wed 23-Jun-21 12:33:52

Callistemon

It's not fake news:

One Britain One Nation is an event set up by Kash Singh, a former police officer from Bradford. It lists its aim as being "to create, a strong, fair, harmonious and a proud British Nation, celebrating patriotism and respect for all our people".

"OBON day" is scheduled for Friday, June 25, and the campaign wants children to sing the OBON day 2021 anthem written by children at St John’s CE Primary School, Bradford.

The headline in Wales online sounds rather aghast grin
^The UK government wants Welsh children to sing 'We are Britain' to celebrate ‘One Britain One Nation Day’^

Thanks Callistemon saves me from looking it up.
Sounds fair enough to me, a good idea on Mr Singh’s part and am sure the children enjoyed writing it.Bradford is a very diverse ( ethnically) city and the words are affirmative, optimistic and rather nice. There is no law to compel any school to sing it, but the ones that do want to participate on OBON day will do so. Children usually enjoy singing in any case.It isn’t as if they will have to sing it every morning of the school year.All the comparisons to Nazi Germany and North Korea are totally ridiculous....but par for the course on forums.

Callistemon Wed 23-Jun-21 12:38:26

I was answering Kalu who was feeling pedantic today, as was I. PippaZ

Is that not allowed?

Callistemon Wed 23-Jun-21 12:41:15

I think the sentiments were fine and the intentions good ones, but it's a pity the politicians have appropriated it, lemongrove

PippaZ Wed 23-Jun-21 12:46:11

Callistemon [Wed 23-Jun-21 12:38:26]

I couldn't understand what you were trying to show Callistemon? It had already been said - although you have every right to repeat it - and you seemed to have ignored what comprises the political definition which seems to me, although maybe not to you, to be the point in question. I did not, at any point, say you are not allowed to repeat what has already been said. Why would I? I was just trying to work out your reasoning in relation to the OP - and couldn't.

lemongrove Wed 23-Jun-21 12:50:41

I have no problem with any government encouraging a song with a lovely message and written by schoolchildren to be sung on a sort of festival day once a year.

Callistemon Wed 23-Jun-21 12:52:53

Callistemon

I was answering Kalu who was feeling pedantic today, as was I. PippaZ

Is that not allowed?

I was answering Kalu, PippaZ

PippaZ Wed 23-Jun-21 12:59:16

I shall remember not to read the posts when people answer someone else. They are not meant as part of the ongoing conversation. I did not understand that to be the case but you have now enlightened me.

Lucca Wed 23-Jun-21 12:59:55

lemongrove

I have no problem with any government encouraging a song with a lovely message and written by schoolchildren to be sung on a sort of festival day once a year.

But to choose a day wine Scottish schools are
“Out” ???

PippaZ Wed 23-Jun-21 13:00:36

lemongrove

I have no problem with any government encouraging a song with a lovely message and written by schoolchildren to be sung on a sort of festival day once a year.

But you wouldn't, would you Lemongrove.

Kalu Wed 23-Jun-21 13:02:06

No misunderstanding! Yes, of course GB is a geographical definition of one British island, however, the collective definition within this island is made up of 3 nations, not one. Ergo, my suggesting UK would encompass NI as more appropriate, to include all four nations.

Happy to help with the FNOUK. ?

lemongrove Wed 23-Jun-21 13:04:24

PippaZ

lemongrove

I have no problem with any government encouraging a song with a lovely message and written by schoolchildren to be sung on a sort of festival day once a year.

But you wouldn't, would you Lemongrove.

No I wouldn’t, and I dare say, neither would millions of others either.

lemongrove Wed 23-Jun-21 13:07:01

I agree that was a mistake Lucca somebody didn’t do their homework.

Casdon Wed 23-Jun-21 13:11:10

Does anybody believe that of their own volition schoolchildren would come up with a slogan One Britain One Nation! I don’t.

Purplepixie Wed 23-Jun-21 13:15:34

How disgusting! It sounds like the Hitler Youth. Sorry, but I never want to hear it again and to get children to sing that! Well it beggars belief!

lemongrove Wed 23-Jun-21 13:18:50

Casdon read the post above by Callistemon it was an event set up by Kash Singh a former policeman in Bradford.
The children were no doubt given the title of the event, One Britain, One Nation and asked to write the words of a song for it.
Am amazed at all the negative views by some for what should be a rather nice song and event once a year to celebrate our nations and the idea of national pride and harmony for all.

lemongrove Wed 23-Jun-21 13:21:29

Good job you don’t live in the US then purplepixie where the school children sing and chant every morning. They don’t seem to think it makes them Hitler Youth ( and of course it doesn’t.)