Martha Hancock

I have read many things I don't disagree with- to better understand the mindset and context. Mein Kampf when I was young, as an example.

I also did a course recently on the Press, and the issues some raise, and the reasons and context behind. This did not make me complicit. But you know that... you know exactly what I mean.

I can understand that.

Markets can be manufactured Mawbe.

Nobody know they wanted a smartphone until Steve Jobs invented one.

Kali2 please will you tell us which paper you read today that had no mention or photo of Martha Hancock? I for one would like to know which one had a sense of decency.

Like most, I came on to this thread to show solidarity with Martha Hancock. I haven’t read a newspaper nor have I watched tv news over the weekend, I can only gather from the earlier comments that she is behaving with great dignity.
I agree that the press should leave her alone and that I am, at times like this, ashamed of our British press.

For what it is worth I attempted Mein Kampf once but the gothic font and sheer tedium of it defeated me!
I think it is possible to understand the evils of a political system from observation and informed comment without necessarily following the propaganda word for word.
What’s that thing about “the oxygen of publicity”?
I can see that in some areas, demand can be manufactured, but I don’t see the relevance of the iPhone comparison in this context.
There must be a reason why we don’t get Page 3 girls in The Guardian or scantily clad models in The Church Times

-Jun-21 19:40:54
I have read many things I don't disagree with- to better understand the mindset and context. Mein Kampf when I was young, as an example

But shocked anybody can say they don't disagree with Mein Kampf

I had a quick look at a newspaper stand, and the only one I saw with her photo on the front was the Mail

MawBe

-Jun-21 19:40:54
I have read many things I don't disagree with- to better understand the mindset and context. Mein Kampf when I was young, as an example

But shocked anybody can say they don't disagree with *Mein Kampf*

So would I. And I am sure you know this was a mistake, in haste and tbh, in anger. So yes, meant to write 'many things I don't agree with'.

As for 'following propaganda word for word' - picking up a copy of one of the gutter press from time to time to get 'the feel' and see for yourself, is hardly following it word for word.

All I can add is that I manage very well without the “gutter press” .

I can see that in some areas, demand can be manufactured, but I don’t see the relevance of the iPhone comparison in this context.

Demand can be manufactured almost anywhere. Do you use milk? 40 years ago, did you know you wanted skimmed milk, or semi-skimmed? Or oat milk? Or almond milk?

20 years ago we were all happy with a nice little clamshell phone, until we were told that it was possible to send texts. Or use Google maps. Or Facebook on the move. Then we all wanted a smartphone. Well not all, but you know what I mean

The real meat of the Hancock story is that he may have improperly given his girlfriend a job, or given contracts to her family's firm. But some tabloids have decided that a better story would be the wronged wife, and what she thinks, and what she looks like. Then that becomes the story because the tabloids promote this as the real story.

My opinion, others may disagree.

I should add, I was referring to actually reading Mein Kampf (presumably in the original? )

I don't think it's the newspapers per se that you should be wary of; possibly we should be more careful as to which coffee shops we frequent; check them out first to see which free newspapers they have hanging about. although no coffee shop, hairdressers or railway station I've visited lately has any newspaper, of any persuasion, since COVID

Well what's intriguing me now is Kali2's seeming reluctance to share which newspaper didn't mention or photograph Martha Hancock.

Alegrias1 that's me in IKEA or a stationery shop, so many things I didn't know I needed until I see them

I don't remember seeing anything about Martha Hancock in The Guardian.
I don't think we should automatically assume she is heartbroken though, she might just be relieved, or secretly ecstatic.

only reading tabloids when they're free in cafes.
In my neck of the woods, cafés and public areas stopped having communal newspapers at the beginning of Covid because it was thought that too many people handling them could spread the virus and I was not aware they had restarted.

No,vit was not in the Guardian, or the Independent. I just hope she already knew about the affair, because otherwise it would have been a tremendous shock to suddenly find herself in the glare of the gutter press. There should be a law to prevent this happening to partners - she isn’t public property.

MawBe

this is currently the same all over the UK - as we all know, not just in your neck of the woods.

Kali2

I have read many things I don't disagree with- to better understand the mindset and context. Mein Kampf when I was young, as an example.

I also did a course recently on the Press, and the issues some raise, and the reasons and context behind. This did not make me complicit. But you know that... you know exactly what I mean.

No, sorry, I don't understand that.
I had one eye on the tennis when I replied earlier.

I don't think you meant to say that, did you, Kali2?

No I didn't- Maw picked up on it and I have said it was an error, of course.

Our local garage has all the papers out of the shop with clear covers- so I always look at the First page and headlines currently- and also rely on FB and other internet sites for access to access to main articles from a variety of newspapers.

I read what I thought should be there and not what was in fact there.

That'll larn me not to multi-task!

Wow I’m just so amazed at the hatred towards Hancock over this. He’s a man isn’t he, so why so shocked at his infidelity. Okay you don’t like the man politically but he has known this woman since uni, in fact his wife has too. Willing to bet she’s suspected for a very long time, would account for her still going out as normal.

He’s a man isn’t he, so why so shocked at his infidelity

I assume you're joking, sandycat

but he has known this woman since uni, in fact his wife has too
Even worse.